Fibre - only 25Mbps

MouldyOldDough

A relative has been on FTTC for a few years - connecting at 25Mbps (distance from cabinet) and has decided to upgrade (to FTTP ?) - The estimated connection speed is still 25Mbps 

How come ?

Is there an intermediate system that BT use when the fibre is not laid the full route or has someone made a boo boo ?

iniltous

MouldyOldDough said:

A relative has been on FTTC for a few years - connecting at 25Mbps (distance from cabinet) and has decided to upgrade to full fibre (FTTP) - The estimated connection speed is still 25Mbps 

How come ?

Is there an intermediate system that BT use when the fibre is not laid the full route or has someone made a boo boo ?

It there was another ‘intermediate system’ to replace FTTC then it wouldn’t be fibre to the premises, and would be completely pointless, you ask has someone misunderstood what’s available ? Yep, that’s probably the issue .

If FTTP is available then the headline speeds  upto 1.6Gb are available.

if you know their address , post the BTw checker results from here .

https://www.broadbandchecker.btwholesale.com/#/ADSL/AddressHome

MouldyOldDough

iniltous said:

MouldyOldDough said:

A relative has been on FTTC for a few years - connecting at 25Mbps (distance from cabinet) and has decided to upgrade to full fibre (FTTP) - The estimated connection speed is still 25Mbps 

How come ?

Is there an intermediate system that BT use when the fibre is not laid the full route or has someone made a boo boo ?

It there was another ‘intermediate system’ to replace FTTC then it wouldn’t be fibre to the premises, and would be completely pointless, you ask has someone misunderstood what’s available ? Yep, that’s probably the issue .

If FTTP is available then the headline speeds  upto 1.6Gb are available.

if you know their address , post the BTw checker results from here .

https://www.broadbandchecker.btwholesale.com/#/ADSL/AddressHome

Here it is.........

MouldyOldDough

If he was NOT on FTTC previously - he would not have been able to connect at 25Mbs ?

oldernonethewiser

I used that site above, out of curiousity, for my address and it comes up with similar figures.

Underneath the table it says FTTP is not available, which I knew anyway.  My area is served by City Fibre.

Ectophile

ISPs will often offer an FTTC-speed package on FTTP, usually at the same price.  This is useful to customers on exchanges where FTTP is now the only option for new customers, but where those customers don't want to pay more.

FTTP is capable of going much faster.  It looks like the limit on your exchange is 330M.  But they can throttle it down to lower speeds for a cheaper price.

iniltous

MouldyOldDough said:

iniltous said:

MouldyOldDough said:

A relative has been on FTTC for a few years - connecting at 25Mbps (distance from cabinet) and has decided to upgrade to full fibre (FTTP) - The estimated connection speed is still 25Mbps 

How come ?

Is there an intermediate system that BT use when the fibre is not laid the full route or has someone made a boo boo ?

It there was another ‘intermediate system’ to replace FTTC then it wouldn’t be fibre to the premises, and would be completely pointless, you ask has someone misunderstood what’s available ? Yep, that’s probably the issue .

If FTTP is available then the headline speeds  upto 1.6Gb are available.

if you know their address , post the BTw checker results from here .

https://www.broadbandchecker.btwholesale.com/#/ADSL/AddressHome

Here it is.........

Openreach FTTP isn’t available, FTTPod (on demand) is a different product where the customer pays  to extend the FTTP network to their address , rather than waiting for the native build to arrive, so your relative is mistaken if they think Openreach based FTTP is available now , as it isn’t , that explains why their speed estimate hasn’t improved , they only have FTTC available so obviously the estimate speed is what they currently get because they don’t have a better Openreach option.

I’m not sure what this comment is in regard to ,

If he was NOT on FTTC previously - he would not have been able to connect at 25Mbs ?

clearly your relative is on FTTC , I never suggested anything different, just the choice of term ‘intermediate’ system suggests FTTC not FTTP , but it’s not a term normally used , FTTC is usually called ‘part fibre’ .

FWIW , 47Mb is potentially available from FTTC at their address , even the lowest estimate on an impacted line is more than 25Mb , which suggests their ‘line’ is underperforming, possibly due to an outside fault , or dodgy internal wiring , or the way they connect to the router when doing speed tests .

Rodders53

My postcode has the following text after the number table posted (which is quite similar otherwise).

FTTP is not available.
The exchange is not in a current fibre priority programme
As a WLR withdrawal exchange, product restrictions apply

Friend may well be going from FTTC with a copper telephony line to exchange to FTTC and no line, but VoIP telephony instead.

My locale has some new housing that gets proper fibre but we cannot yet.  Openreach had a major cable fault that took out a swathe of the village for weeks and they still just fixed the copper, rather than install an upgrade to FTTP for those affected.

MouldyOldDough

Rodders53 said:

My postcode has the following text after the number table posted (which is quite similar otherwise).

FTTP is not available.
The exchange is not in a current fibre priority programme
As a WLR withdrawal exchange, product restrictions apply

Friend may well be going from FTTC with a copper telephony line to exchange to FTTC and no line, but VoIP telephony instead.

My locale has some new housing that gets proper fibre but we cannot yet.  Openreach had a major cable fault that took out a swathe of the village for weeks and they still just fixed the copper, rather than install an upgrade to FTTP for those affected.

That appears to be what he is doing .... the only change being the phone is connected to the Router - and its cheaper.... 

iniltous

You don’t just replace copper cables with fibre ones to make FTTP available, there is much more to it , so if a copper cable is in use with paying customers on it and it’s damaged or faulty , obviously you repair or replace the copper cable to restore their service .