How can you have light up Mirror in bathroom? Surely it’s not safe?

Section62

Eldi_Dos said:

bjorn_toby_wilde said:

Depends whether you have modern RCDs or the old fashioned fuse box!

But would the 16A sockets not add a level of safety either way?

The plugs are more robust and the pins are better protected physically (and IP-rated versions are available) - but they aren't fused at the plug, so the overload protection is the 15/16A device where the spur connects to the supply (e.g. the consumer unit).  In some situations that might represent a lower level of safety than an appliance plugged in with a 13A (BS1363) plug with a lower-rated fuse.

If the government were to mandate a change for outdoor appliances then it would probably make more sense to go to the 110/115v 'yellow' system.  But I don't see that happening anytime soon.

silvercar

WIAWSNB said:

Surely no-one on here would actually be happy with a 13A socket in their bathroom?

And, if anyone would be, tell us you'd pick up a plug after a steamy shower, and plug it in?

Abroad there would be a socket, near the bathroom mirror, often positioned above a sink. 

In the UK we seem to concentrate on protecting idiots.

In fact we make it worse. The idiots run old and decaying extension leads from the sockets in another room to plug their devices in. This possibly allows them to plug in more devices at the same time. Making it more likely that a device will fall into the bath or be knocked over, creating trip hazards in the bathroom as well as in the room the extension lead is coming from. At least the door will be wedged open by the trailing leads allowing them to be discovered. Let's hope the idiots' family realise that the first action on discovering a frazzled person is to check for hazards!

smilingwarthog

Yes, have it installed by a competent part p rated electrician. We have a mirror with lights and a heater to prevent the glass misting up, it's great.

Often they are wired into the lighting circuit so come on with the lights. Sometimes they have a non-contact sensor switch but this can normally be overridden if you don't want to turn it off ever.

WIAWSNB

grumpy_codger said:

WIAWSNB said:

Surely no-one on here would actually be happy with a 13A socket in their bathroom?

And, if anyone would be, tell us you'd pick up a plug after a steamy shower, and plug it in?

I would be happy to have and to plug in. The alleged danger is hugely overestimated.

You are telling us you'd step out of your shower, shivver, and reach down for your heater's 13A plug which is covered in condensation, and plug it into the bathroom 13A socket?

grumpy_codger

WIAWSNB said:

grumpy_codger said:

WIAWSNB said:

Surely no-one on here would actually be happy with a 13A socket in their bathroom?

And, if anyone would be, tell us you'd pick up a plug after a steamy shower, and plug it in?

I would be happy to have and to plug in. The alleged danger is hugely overestimated.

You are telling us you'd step out of your shower, shivver, and reach down for your heater's 13A plug which is covered in condensation, and plug it into the bathroom 13A socket?

Want a video? I can use an extension lead and spay the floor, the socket, the plug and my hands. This is even worse than condensation as distilled water has very low conductivity. 

WIAWSNB

grumpy_codger said:

Want a video? I can use an extension lead and spay the floor, the socket, the plug and my hands. This is even worse than condensation as distilled water has very low conductivity. 

No, I do not at all want a video, or even for you to attempt. We'd miss your Grumpiness on here.