How can you have light up Mirror in bathroom? Surely it’s not safe?

FrankFalcon

Apologies, I don’t make myself fully clear. I wasn’t meaning the products themselves, I meant the pure fact that there was a 240v supply in a wet area. However, I’ve read all your helpful comments and stand educated. 

LightFlare

A lot of UK taps are still fitted as separate entities  for an historical need to avoid the risk of disease.

Fortunately, we are gradually catching up with the rest of the world

bjorn_toby_wilde

LightFlare said:

A lot of UK taps are still fitted as separate entities  for an historical need to avoid the risk of disease.

Fortunately, we are gradually catching up with the rest of the world

Sorry, I don’t understand that.  What do you mean by “fitted as separate entities”?

stuart45

I guess he means that you have a separate cold and hot tap. This is less common in other countries.

WIAWSNB

Surely no-one on here would actually be happy with a 13A socket in their bathroom?

And, if anyone would be, tell us you'd pick up a plug after a steamy shower, and plug it in?

grumpy_codger

WIAWSNB said:

Surely no-one on here would actually be happy with a 13A socket in their bathroom?

And, if anyone would be, tell us you'd pick up a plug after a steamy shower, and plug it in?

I would be happy to have and to plug in. The alleged danger is hugely overestimated.

Eldi_Dos

WIAWSNB said:

Surely no-one on here would actually be happy with a 13A socket in their bathroom?

And, if anyone would be, tell us you'd pick up a plug after a steamy shower, and plug it in?

I am with you on that, another area is those "outdoor" 13A sockets we see more of.

The 16 A (Blue) sockets seem much better suited for outdoor use.

bjorn_toby_wilde

Depends whether you have modern RCDs or the old fashioned fuse box!

Section62

grumpy_codger said:

WIAWSNB said:

Surely no-one on here would actually be happy with a 13A socket in their bathroom?

And, if anyone would be, tell us you'd pick up a plug after a steamy shower, and plug it in?

I would be happy to have and to plug in. The alleged danger is hugely overestimated.

It is a real danger, not an 'alleged' one...

The problem when it comes to making rules is the need to make them assuming people are rather silly and won't take sensible precautions.  No doubt you would never take a mains radio, or phone charger, or lamp, or heater into the bathroom and perch it on the edge of the bath while you have your soak, or pick it up with wet hands, but some people would.  Not having a 13A socket in the bathroom makes it that bit harder for those people to kill themselves.  Those determined to try - for example by running an extension lead into the bathroom - are possibly beyond what can reasonably be done to help them.

It is often difficult for sensible people to imagine how unwise some people can be.  The news regularly reports on how people have managed to kill or seriously injure themselves doing something no sensible/sober person would do.

Completely unrelated to the thread, yesterday's news reported that GWR had been fined over £1m for not doing enough to prevent the sad death of a young person who stuck their head out of an open window of an express train. A notice stating "Caution do not lean out of window when train is moving" was deemed insufficient.

With that in mind, if the rules on electrical safety in bathrooms were to be relaxed, what alternative measures would you think are necessary to try to avoid people doing things which could kill them?

Eldi_Dos

bjorn_toby_wilde said:

Depends whether you have modern RCDs or the old fashioned fuse box!

But would the 16A sockets not add a level of safety either way?