UKPPO penalty at Esso Fuel station (Newcastle Airport)

doubledotcom

You have not answered the question about how they know the person with the yellow suitcase is "YOU"? Unless you have told them that the person with the yellow suitcase is you, all they had was some video stills of some unidentified people getting in/out/unloading/walking away. As the location is on land that is not relevant for the purposes of PoFA, they can only hold the driver liable. They have or had no idea who the driver was unless "YOU" identified them.

This is why you are always advised to never identify the driver, whether it was you or not. You, the Keeper, are known. The driver is unknown (to them). Without that crucial information, they cannot hold the Keeper liable.

bigtittymothguy

doubledotcom said:

You have not answered the question about how they know the person with the yellow suitcase is "YOU"? Unless you have told them that the person with the yellow suitcase is you, all they had was some video stills of some unidentified people getting in/out/unloading/walking away. As the location is on land that is not relevant for the purposes of PoFA, they can only hold the driver liable. They have or had no idea who the driver was unless "YOU" identified them.

This is why you are always advised to never identify the driver, whether it was you or not. You, the Keeper, are known. The driver is unknown (to them). Without that crucial information, they cannot hold the Keeper liable.

Apologies for jumping on this thread but it's relevant to a case that I am fighting, just at the LBC stage now. Is there a place I can read up on the bold segment above and how to identify this particular garage as non PoFA compliant?

Le_Kirk

bigtittymothguy said:

doubledotcom said:

You have not answered the question about how they know the person with the yellow suitcase is "YOU"? Unless you have told them that the person with the yellow suitcase is you, all they had was some video stills of some unidentified people getting in/out/unloading/walking away. As the location is on land that is not relevant for the purposes of PoFA, they can only hold the driver liable. They have or had no idea who the driver was unless "YOU" identified them.

This is why you are always advised to never identify the driver, whether it was you or not. You, the Keeper, are known. The driver is unknown (to them). Without that crucial information, they cannot hold the Keeper liable.

Apologies for jumping on this thread but it's relevant to a case that I am fighting, just at the LBC stage now. Is there a place I can read up on the bold segment above and how to identify this particular garage as non PoFA compliant?

You can read all about POFA here: -
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2012/9/schedule/4/enacted