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Discussion: Mazur v Charles Russell Speechlys LLP

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  • Coupon-mad
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    I'm not at all surprised.

    But as it stands in 2025, this is the case law.


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  • Nellymoser
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    Someone has started a petition:

    Allow legal professionals to conduct litigation without being solicitors
  • A_Geordie
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    edited 20 October at 2:49PM
    Not sure if it has been posted already, but the Law Society has published a new practice note for guidance to solicitors on the conducting litigation following Mazur (requires sign up to read the full practice note). 

    https://www.lawsociety.org.uk/topics/regulation/mazur-and-the-conduct-of-litigation
  • Umkomaas
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    edited 20 October at 9:28PM
    A_Geordie said:
    Not sure if it has been posted already, but the Law Society has published a new practice note for guidance to solicitors on the conducting litigation following Mazur (requires sign up to read the full practice note). 

    https://www.lawsociety.org.uk/topics/regulation/mazur-and-the-conduct-of-litigation

    Tick-box’ oversight from an authorised person will not be sufficient.

    DCB Legal might find that difficult, even with its latest issuing with a registered solicitor 'signing' its current batch of Claim Forms!

    Much of the work involved in litigation can nonetheless be carried out by non-authorised staff – either as it does not amount to the reserved activity of the conduct of litigation or as it falls within their role assisting an authorised person.

    This will include activities that take place prior to proceedings being initiated. It will also generally include matters such as:

    • the giving of general legal advice
    • drafting pleadings, particulars of claim, applications and correspondence
    • proofing witnesses
    • drafting statements, and
    • signing a statement of truth
    Would that be correct? 🤷‍♂️
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • A_Geordie
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    edited 20 October at 10:10PM
    Umkomaas said:

    This will include activities that take place prior to proceedings being initiated. It will also generally include matters such as:

    • the giving of general legal advice
    • drafting pleadings, particulars of claim, applications and correspondence
    • proofing witnesses
    • drafting statements, and
    • signing a statement of truth
    Would that be correct? 🤷‍♂️
    Presumably the LS are relying on BSB v O'Connor as authority for that, but also Part 22 of the CPR (Statements of Truth) says that a statement of truth can be signed by a legal representative. PD22 goes on to say that an employee of a solicitor falls within the definition of a legal representative. 

    May still be up for debate in certain circumstances I think. Also if the non-authorised person has to submit a witness statement then obviously they will need to sign a statement of truth. 

  • Umkomaas
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    A_Geordie said:
    Umkomaas said:

    This will include activities that take place prior to proceedings being initiated. It will also generally include matters such as:

    • the giving of general legal advice
    • drafting pleadings, particulars of claim, applications and correspondence
    • proofing witnesses
    • drafting statements, and
    • signing a statement of truth
    Would that be correct? 🤷‍♂️
    Presumably the LS are relying on BSB v O'Connor as authority for that, but also Part 22 of the CPR (Statements of Truth) says that a statement of truth can be signed by a legal representative. PD22 goes on to say that an employee of a solicitor falls within the definition of a legal representative. 

    May still be up for debate in certain circumstances I think. Also if the non-authorised person has to submit a witness statement then obviously they will need to sign a statement of truth. 

    Thanks @A_Geordie.  Given the more detailed and bespoke nature of its contents, I would have thought the signing off of a SoT in a WS would carry a greater weight of responsibility than having template claim POC under a auto-typed name of a solicitor on the Claim Form, especially in the conveyor belt, bulk litigation world of private parking.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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