The Scottish Pension Age Winter Heating Payment amount

SJMALBA

wrf12345 said:

AI is wonderful, I am supposed to have died in a motorcycle accident, having had my fifteen minutes of minor fame many decades ago and therefore a bit more searchable than I would like. Winter fuel payment is £150, I think, unless the Scots are more generous than us lot.

You're likely thinking of the Warm Home Discount, which is £150...?

Eldi_Dos

jem16 said:

AssemblyGMX said:

This is my very first post in my new MSE account.  I used Google for information and it said that the amount for anyone of State Pension age in Scotland to age 79 should receive £203.40 paid into the account where they receive their State Pension with no need to apply for it. Does this amount sound right?

I am asking because some sites say, in my circumstances, the amount was to be £200 and what could the extra £3.40 be for?

The Scottish Government of course decided to put their own take on it by making the payment amount slightly different - nothing like adding confusion basically. 

So we now have the situation of pensioners in Scotland getting the new payment from Scotland but HMRC still clawing it back if taxable income of £35k or more. 

One reason for the different rates was to take into account the 21% tax rate, got to try and keep it a level playing field if you can.

Northern_Wanderer

wrf12345 said:

AI is wonderful, I am supposed to have died in a motorcycle accident, having had my fifteen minutes of minor fame many decades ago and therefore a bit more searchable than I would like. Winter fuel payment is £150, I think, unless the Scots are more generous than us lot.

Winter Fuel Payment, Winter Heating Payment, damn I always get the names of these confused! I should have called it PAWHP as that is the topic of this thread! Of course scot gov had to change the names of every single benefit that was devolved just to make it easier for everyone 

Northern_Wanderer

And just to confuse everyone, there is a WHP in scotland at £59.75 paid to certain people on benefits. I can't keep up! Much prefer if cost of power was less for everyone but will stop there.

Dazed_and_C0nfused

Eldi_Dos said:

jem16 said:

AssemblyGMX said:

This is my very first post in my new MSE account.  I used Google for information and it said that the amount for anyone of State Pension age in Scotland to age 79 should receive £203.40 paid into the account where they receive their State Pension with no need to apply for it. Does this amount sound right?

I am asking because some sites say, in my circumstances, the amount was to be £200 and what could the extra £3.40 be for?

The Scottish Government of course decided to put their own take on it by making the payment amount slightly different - nothing like adding confusion basically. 

So we now have the situation of pensioners in Scotland getting the new payment from Scotland but HMRC still clawing it back if taxable income of £35k or more. 

One reason for the different rates was to take into account the 21% tax rate, got to try and keep it a level playing field if you can.

Not sure how you come to that conclusion given it is a 100% tax charge.  You either pay nothing back or pay it all, not 21% of £305.10 (other SSS rates apply).

Eldi_Dos

Dazed_and_C0nfused said:

Eldi_Dos said:

jem16 said:

AssemblyGMX said:

This is my very first post in my new MSE account.  I used Google for information and it said that the amount for anyone of State Pension age in Scotland to age 79 should receive £203.40 paid into the account where they receive their State Pension with no need to apply for it. Does this amount sound right?

I am asking because some sites say, in my circumstances, the amount was to be £200 and what could the extra £3.40 be for?

The Scottish Government of course decided to put their own take on it by making the payment amount slightly different - nothing like adding confusion basically. 

So we now have the situation of pensioners in Scotland getting the new payment from Scotland but HMRC still clawing it back if taxable income of £35k or more. 

One reason for the different rates was to take into account the 21% tax rate, got to try and keep it a level playing field if you can.

Not sure how you come to that conclusion given it is a 100% tax charge.  You either pay nothing back or pay it all, not 21% of £305.10 (other SSS rates apply).

But recovering it at a rate of 21% rather than 20% could be deemed inequitable hence the addition of a few pence.

We did not get the reputation for being thrifty by chance.

Dazed_and_C0nfused

Eldi_Dos said:

Dazed_and_C0nfused said:

Eldi_Dos said:

jem16 said:

AssemblyGMX said:

This is my very first post in my new MSE account.  I used Google for information and it said that the amount for anyone of State Pension age in Scotland to age 79 should receive £203.40 paid into the account where they receive their State Pension with no need to apply for it. Does this amount sound right?

I am asking because some sites say, in my circumstances, the amount was to be £200 and what could the extra £3.40 be for?

The Scottish Government of course decided to put their own take on it by making the payment amount slightly different - nothing like adding confusion basically. 

So we now have the situation of pensioners in Scotland getting the new payment from Scotland but HMRC still clawing it back if taxable income of £35k or more. 

One reason for the different rates was to take into account the 21% tax rate, got to try and keep it a level playing field if you can.

Not sure how you come to that conclusion given it is a 100% tax charge.  You either pay nothing back or pay it all, not 21% of £305.10 (other SSS rates apply).

But recovering it at a rate of 21% rather than 20% could be deemed inequitable hence the addition of a few pence.

We did not get the reputation for being thrifty by chance.

But what about those of us paying 42% 😢

Scot_39

My guess was cpi indexing.

The 21% kicks in iirc at c26.5, but then theirs thd 2.xk at 19% starter rste - so only pay more above c£29k in reality.

1% of 6k is £60  £1.70, £3.40 isn't the extra tax burden.

And the old wfp wasn't taxable in any case iirc, but now is at 100% clawback above 35k.


But with free prescriptions- nearly £10 in England, free bus passes at 60, free univ for kids, baby baskets, free bikes, higher snhs than nhs wages  etc etc something or rather someone has to give somewhere.

molerat

Scot_39 said:
The 21% kicks in iirc at c26.5, but then theirs thd 2.xk at 19% starter rste - so only pay more above c£29k in reality.

The break even point is £30328 for 25-26 against £28877 for 24-25.

Northern_Wanderer

Scot_39 said:

But with free prescriptions- nearly £10 in England, free bus passes at 60, free univ for kids, baby baskets, free bikes, higher snhs than nhs wages  etc etc something or rather someone has to give somewhere.

And you have no idea the costs involved in producing all those colourful "books" for disability benefit applications and all the vast amounts of paperwork that Social Security Scotland sends out to people. Very wasteful IMHO.