IAS DECISIONS (2025 onwards, until - we hope - they are banned)

Kaizen2024

5 minutes is the minimum C/Period unless the operator can demonstrate that the motorist was not using the C/Period for its intended purpose.

If the motorist can evidence that they needed slightly longer to read the signs, if they have reduced mobility for example; the operator could be obliged revoke the charge.

Coupon-mad

Can't disagree with the above.

Technically, as it stands "them's the facts" based on the ludicrously biased Joint Code but in many cases, 5 minutes is seriously insufficient. In this case, the driver considered parking, read the (appallingly wordy) Napier signs, decided they didn't agree to the terms and went to leave but were delayed by another vehicle blocking their way in a car park with a single narrow entrance.

No judge would find in favour of Napier in this example. Leaving in just ten minutes and parking elsewhere is evidence of no parking contract agreed by the driver whilst in the Napier site.

Are you proud of the AI style boilerplate 'decisions' churned out by the IAS, @Kaizen2024 ? And the fact that the so-called Adjudicators are the same pool of rookie legals without a permanent job, who rock up to courts and spout the exact same crap to represent the dark side?

Umkomaas

Are you proud of the AI style boilerplate 'decisions' churned out by the IAS, @Kaizen2024 ? And the fact that the so-called Adjudicators are the same pool of rookie legals without a permanent job, who rock up to courts and spout the exact same crap to represent the dark side?

But does he have some sympathy for them? 😳

thefunkaygibbon

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81997479#Comment_81997479

Additionally, the car park was designed with separate entry to exit. The parking spaces are laid (layed?) out in such a way that that you are intended to drive forwards into the space which are angled to the exit that no longer exists. This means that you go to where the exit used to be, and appears to still be, and then have to reverse the full length of the car park as you cannot turn around.

I do not expect this to get to court, but I am fully willing to record the entire entry (on foot, not risking them doing this again), find space, get out, read sign and attempt to leave and time it