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IAS DECISIONS (2025 onwards, until - we hope - they are banned)

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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 162,050 Forumite
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    Hasn't even addressed the lack of surface markings. Ignore this non-impartial trash.
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  • Government should practice what they preach .....

    ONE IN AND ONE OUT

    IN .... A FULLY INDEPENENT APPEALS SERVICE

    OUT ...
    THE IAS AND POPLA
  • Another success appeal at IAS

    The Notice to the Keeper failed Paragraph 11.1(b) for making an application to the DVLA too early. 


    If the Notice to Keeper (served under Para 9)  was issued on the same day or the day after the parking event, the operator likely made an application to the DVLA before the start of the 14-day relevant period which begins the day after the specified parking period ended . 

    Since DVLA responses aren’t instant (usually returned the next day or later), this timing usuallysuggests a breach of the third condition for keeper liability under POFA. 

    Confirm it with a Vehicle Subject Request to the DVLA - ask for the date the operator applied and the date your data was released.

    If Confirmed - it’s a breach of the third condition for keeper liability under POFA.

    Early DVLA access = POFA fail = no keeper liability.


  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 30 September 2025 at 1:21AM
    IAS joke 'decision' from this thread:

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81212910/#Comment_81212910

    @estevenin said:
    PCM scam at High Point Village with lurking person taking phone pictures but not issuing a PCN:



    Update after response from IAS, as expected, dismissed.  It's actually quite funny, they have written "It is the driver's responsibility to read the signage, including exiting the vehicle to do so if necessary". It is actually not allowed to get out of the vehicle.

    So I suppose the next step is to ignore every communication that I receive from the Parking Company (or should I politely decline - or refer them to the case of Arkell v Pressdram (1971) - to pay ?), until there is a potential small claim for this case ? So I should be in peace for a couple of months or so. 
    Here's the answer for entertainment purposes :
    "The Appellant should understand that the Adjudicator is not in a position to give legal advice to either of the parties but they are entitled to seek their own independent legal advice. The Adjudicator's role is to consider whether or not the parking charge has a basis in law and was properly issued in the circumstances of each individual case. In all Appeals the Adjudicator is bound by the relevant law applicable at the time and is only able to consider legal challenges and not factual mistakes nor extenuating or mitigating circumstances. Throughout this appeal the Operator has had the opportunity consider all points raised and could have conceded the appeal at any stage. The Adjudicator who deals with this Appeal is legally qualified and each case is dealt with according to their understanding of the law as it applies and the legal principles involved. A decision by an Adjudicator is not legally binding on an Appellant who is entitled to seek their own legal advice if they so wish.

    I am satisfied that the Appellant was parked in an area where the Operator has authority to issue Parking Charge Notices and to take the necessary steps to enforce them.

    Images, including a site map and site photographs have been provided to me by the Operator which shows the signage displayed on this site. After viewing those images I am satisfied that the signage is sufficient to have brought to the attention of the Appellant the terms and conditions that apply to parking on this site. The Appellant's contention that the signage is insufficient, which is not supported by any evidence is not accepted. It is the driver's responsibility to read the signage, including exiting the vehicle to do so if necessary.

    The signage at this site makes it clear that parking is on private land and that vehicles must be parked wholly within the confines of a marked parking bay and that a failure to comply with that term and condition will result in the issuing of a Parking Charge Notice. In the photographs provided I can see that the Appellant's vehicle was not parked wholly within a marked bay/was parked across two bays. It is the driver's responsibility to ensure that they conform with the terms and conditions of the Operator's signage displayed at this site. Mitigating/extenuating circumstances cannot be taken into account. The courts have interpreted vehicles that are stationary on private land as being parked within the meaning of the signage, irrespective of the period parked and factors such as whether the driver remained with the vehicle, the engine remained running etc. I am satisfied from the evidence provided that the Appellant was parked on this occasion and the Appellant's assertion to the contrary is not accepted. Grace periods only apply to a period of permitted parking and therefore are not applicable in these circumstances and no parking outside marked bays is permitted. The Appellant is also quoting the incorrect code of practice (the Operator being a member of the IAS not BPA). As such, on the basis of the evidence provided I am satisfied that the Appellant was parked in breach of the displayed terms and conditions and that the PCN was correctly issued on this occasion.

    I have considered all the issues raised by both parties in this Appeal and I am satisfied that the Operator has established that the Parking Charge Notice was properly issued in accordance with the law and therefore this Appeal is dismissed"

    Arkell v Pressdram indeed...
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  • jd576
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    Be interesting to contrast that number with how many cases won at a hearing and reported on this forum during the course of 2024 went through an IAS appeal!
  • patient_dream
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    jd576 said:
    Be interesting to contrast that number with how many cases won at a hearing and reported on this forum during the course of 2024 went through an IAS appeal!
    The IAS has had such bad publicity for their sham operation that even court judges know about it so doubt judges will take any notice of this kangaroo court sham, some say it's a scam

    IPC members are led into a sense of false security thinking that id the IAS rules in their favour, it's money in their pockets but far from it and out comes the filth of the industry, money scam debt collectors and very dodgy legals adding their fakes and their favourite stupid language to mislead the courts.

    Government should take more notice of the great parking scam and clamp down on the money scam.

    That means getting rid of the IPC/IAS/HURLEY SHAM


  • My Appeal

    You completed the appeal on 

    I received this ticket though the post regarding the PCN Received at Quay Side House but was never Issued to the van.

    At the time of parking there were several other vehicles around (Car Park Full on a SUNNY DAY) which to the Drivers Side was a Camper Van, Behind was a Car that was parked in Front of their Bay Lines and on the Passenger Side was a Small car parked close to the Right Hand Side of Their Bay.. (See attached Area Where Parked 4 and Site Map showing where they were parked)

    Whilst I understand that in an ideal world I should be parked between the Lines, It was not possible due to the other Cars/Camper Van and there were no other space that I could safely and Considerately park,

    I parked the Van in a Position that was not CAUSING ANY OBSTRUCTION OR DANGER to any other users of the car park... (Again see Pics Attached)
    Not realising that (I don't take a Magnifying glass with my to read your signs) I would be fined for PARKING a LONG WHEEL BASE VAN 16" in front of a Line when not causing any obstructions or hazards!

    Adjudicator's Decision

    The adjudicator made their decision on

    The Appellant should understand that the Adjudicator is not in a position to give legal advice to either of the parties but they are entitled to seek their own independent legal advice. The Adjudicator's role is to consider whether or not the parking charge has a basis in law and was properly issued in the circumstances of each individual case. In all Appeals the Adjudicator is bound by the relevant law applicable at the time and is only able to consider legal challenges and not factual mistakes nor extenuating or mitigating circumstances. Throughout this appeal the Operator has had the opportunity consider all points raised and could have conceded the appeal at any stage. The Adjudicator who deals with this Appeal is legally qualified and each case is dealt with according to their understanding of the law as it applies and the legal principles involved. A decision by an Adjudicator is not legally binding on an Appellant who is entitled to seek their own legal advice if they so wish.

    A number of images have been provided to me by the P.O which shows the signage displayed on this site. After viewing those images I am satisfied that the signage is sufficient to have brought to the attention of the Appellant the terms and conditions that apply to parking on this site. I am satisfied that the Appellant was parked in an area where the parking operator has authority to issue Parking Charge Notices and to take the necessary steps to enforce them.

    The signage at this site makes it clear that parking is on private land and that vehicles must be parked wholly within the confines of a marked parking bay and that a failure to comply with that term and condition will result in the issuing of a Parking Charge Notice.

    I have considered all the issues raised by both parties in this Appeal and I am satisfied that the parking operator has established that the Parking Charge Notice was properly issued in accordance with the law and therefore this Appeal is dismissed.



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