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Gifts during lifetime for probate

Skint_yet_Again
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I am trying to work out what gifts need to be included in probate calculations. Guidance seems to suggest ….”Birthday or Christmas gifts you give from your regular income are exempt from Inheritance Tax”.
Does this just apply to small gifts under £250? Or does it also apply to gifts over £3000 if paid from regular pension income?
Does this just apply to small gifts under £250? Or does it also apply to gifts over £3000 if paid from regular pension income?
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My reading is it's unlimited, provided you're not depleting your capital.
Not sure it literally needs to be "birthdays and Christmas" only (the latter would seem discriminatory for a start!).1 -
The correct phrase is "normal expenditure out of income" i.e. there needs to be a pattern of regular, habitual gifts made out of the individual's surplus income (and therefore not out of capital).1
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Thanks user1977 and NorthYorkie
This is lifted direct from gov.uk so no change of wording. It is specific about the gifts being at Christmas and birthdaysSmall gift allowance
You can give as many gifts of up to £250 per person as you want each tax year, as long as you have not used another allowance on the same person.
Birthday or Christmas gifts you give from your regular income are exempt from Inheritance Tax.
https://www.gov.uk/inheritance-tax/gifts
Edit to add the money came from monthly pensions. No other income into the account
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I'm afraid your gov.uk page makes an absolute howler by placing Christmas & birthday presents under the small gifts exemption. They properly belong in the Normal expenditure section a couple of paragraphs lower, as NorthYorkie explains. This is much clearer in the IHT400 Notes at page 77.
If you want your executor to eventually apply the Normal expenditure exemption, have a look at the last page of IHT403 to see how much additional detail needs to be given to satisfy HMRC.
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Skint_yet_Again said:
This is lifted direct from gov.uk so no change of wording. It is specific about the gifts being at Christmas and birthdays1 -
Thank you both I wasn’t disagreeing. Hopefully we can include them without needing to try and claim the exemption. Your help is much appreciated0% credit card £1360 & 0% Car Loan £7500 ~ paid in full JAN 2020 = NOW DEBT FREE 🤗
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As a matter of interest are your joint estate anywhere near the £1 million threshold where IHT would start to bite?
If not, do you even need to worry about the availability of the various IHT gifts exemptions to shelter your annual gifting? Forgive me if you have already imparted your estate value in another post.0 -
poseidon1 said:As a matter of interest are your joint estate anywhere near the £1 million threshold where IHT would start to bite?
If not, do you even need to worry about the availability of the various IHT gifts exemptions to shelter your annual gifting? Forgive me if you have already imparted your estate value in another post.2
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