PCN at Claim stage. DCB Legal. / Smart Parking.

Gr1pr

TimBisley said:

Gr1pr said:

TimBisley said:

Gr1pr said:

Gr1pr said:

Post the Issue date from the top right of the claim form below and also post a redacted picture of the POC from the lower left of the claim form below after hiding the VRM details first 

Post the Issue date from the top right of the claim form

Ah sorry, missed that bit! 

It was issued 6th August 2025.

OK, login to MCOL and complete the AOS online if not done already,  to extend the deadline 

Yeah, I did that last night so does that now mean 28 days from yesterday?

I've noticed that 2 of the 3 PCNs seem to have been issued more than 14 days after the alleged incident. Is this what not complying with POFA 2012 means?

4pm, 33 days after the issue date from the top right of the claim form 

It can do , if no windscreen PCNs were issued 

TimBisley

Gr1pr said:

TimBisley said:

Gr1pr said:

TimBisley said:

Gr1pr said:

Gr1pr said:

Post the Issue date from the top right of the claim form below and also post a redacted picture of the POC from the lower left of the claim form below after hiding the VRM details first 

Post the Issue date from the top right of the claim form

Ah sorry, missed that bit! 

It was issued 6th August 2025.

OK, login to MCOL and complete the AOS online if not done already,  to extend the deadline 

Yeah, I did that last night so does that now mean 28 days from yesterday?

I've noticed that 2 of the 3 PCNs seem to have been issued more than 14 days after the alleged incident. Is this what not complying with POFA 2012 means?

4pm, 33 days after the issue date from the top right of the claim form 

It can do , if no windscreen PCNs were issued 

Thanks.

Yeah, it was all done by ANPR. Would that bit about not complying with POFA 2012 go in 'paragraph 3'? 

I'm struggling with the defence tbh. I can't seem to find anything on the forum specifically relating to a July/August defence against smart parking and I just don't have the knowledge to know what to keep and change in the template. My head's a mess!

Coupon-mad

What's wrong with this one? Found within a minute of a search:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6609879/smart-parking-dcb-claim/p1

TimBisley

Coupon-mad said:

What's wrong with this one? Found within a minute of a search:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6609879/smart-parking-dcb-claim/p1

I think the problem is I don't know what I'm exactly looking for. Thanks for your help. I'll have a go at a draft.

Coupon-mad

Coupon-mad said:

3 PCNs might well end up with a hearing but DCB Legal do love to discontinue cases and are hearing averse so you can't be sure either way. However, your evidence of the pass at WS stage (later) should be the silver bullet.

I think your paragraph 3 should be similar to all the other Smart Parking DCB claim threads with the extra bit in all of them (search the forum) that points out that the Claim is untrue because Smart never used the POFA 2012 in 2021 and know full well they cannot hold a registered keeper liable.

Coupon-mad said:

What's wrong with this one? Found within a minute of a search:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6609879/smart-parking-dcb-claim/

TimBisley said:

I think the problem is I don't know what I'm exactly looking for. Thanks for your help. I'll have a go at a draft.

I searched for the words I'd already put in bold for you!  I did that in my first reply to you a few days ago, to make it clear they were the search words.

  

TimBisley

Hi again. Just a little update on this one. The land owner (shopping centre) manager has been really helpful and managed to get the 3 PCNs cancelled by Smart Parking. Do I wait for the court claim to be dropped at their end? Or is there something I should be doing to make sure that happens? Thanks.

Gr1pr

Carry on until you get a notice of Discontinuance from DCB Legal 

Email them , say what you have received and tell them to check with their client and then issue the N279 discontinuation document ASAP 

Coupon-mad

TimBisley said:

Hi again. Just a little update on this one. The land owner (shopping centre) manager has been really helpful and managed to get the 3 PCNs cancelled by Smart Parking.

 Do I wait for the court claim to be dropped at their end? Or is there something I should be doing to make sure that happens? Thanks.

I'm unsure: are you saying you haven't submitted a defence yet? Eeek you MUST!

DCB Legal won't stop (yet) or even know about this and you'll get a CCJ and bailiffs if you fail to defend a claim. Hopefully you have already.

And even though this is stressful: while your case is quiet please do the government's Public Consultation. We need every poster to come back & complete this vital Consultation before the deadline (this time next week). 

See this thread: -

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6617396/parking-code-of-practice-consultation-8-weeks-from-11th-july-2025/p1

We understand that you may need some pointers. It looks laborious, we get that. It doesn't matter; no knowledge is needed except re your own experiences so you can call out a scam industry and you'll protect millions of motorists and help change the law.

I've written some guidance on that thread. I have covered almost every question, providing ideas if you agree with our stance on things like DRFs, which we say must be banned.

Ordinary people like you are falling victim to this scam 15 million times per annum. Motorists need your voice added please.

CLOSES IN ONE WEEK.

TimBisley

Coupon-mad said:

TimBisley said:

Hi again. Just a little update on this one. The land owner (shopping centre) manager has been really helpful and managed to get the 3 PCNs cancelled by Smart Parking.

 Do I wait for the court claim to be dropped at their end? Or is there something I should be doing to make sure that happens? Thanks.

I'm unsure: are you saying you haven't submitted a defence yet? Eeek you MUST!

DCB Legal won't stop (yet) or even know about this and you'll get a CCJ and bailiffs if you fail to defend a claim. Hopefully you have already.

And even though this is stressful: while your case is quiet please do the government's Public Consultation. We need every poster to come back & complete this vital Consultation before the deadline (this time next week). 

See this thread: -

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6617396/parking-code-of-practice-consultation-8-weeks-from-11th-july-2025/p1

We understand that you may need some pointers. It looks laborious, we get that. It doesn't matter; no knowledge is needed except re your own experiences so you can call out a scam industry and you'll protect millions of motorists and help change the law.

I've written some guidance on that thread. I have covered almost every question, providing ideas if you agree with our stance on things like DRFs, which we say must be banned.

Ordinary people like you are falling victim to this scam 15 million times per annum. Motorists need your voice added please.

CLOSES IN ONE WEEK.

I have been working on the defence but haven't filed it yet. I assume I should now mention the fact that the PCNs have been cancelled? Would that be in paragraph 3?

Gr1pr

Just state that the defendant has written confirmation from the landowner that all the PCNs have been cancelled,  adding it to paragraph 3, at the end

If you are past the deadline for submitting the defence,  get it done ASAP on MCOL 

With an issue date of 6th August,  your deadline is 4pm on 8th September,  but it MUST be done or a default CCJ will occur