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Can't see it, can you zoom in? Mere seconds?PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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Coupon-mad said:Can't see it, can you zoom in? Mere seconds?0
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Can't right click on a phone! But I could save it to photos then zoom in & save a screenshot:The joke by Viking is this 11 seconds scam.
But the bigger scam is sending a keeper a notice saying they're liable under the POFA, yet refusing their right to appeal & deleting it!
A keeper is perfectly entitled to appeal.
Here's the BPA and DVLA's stated position on this (thanks to Siross for this useful DVLA email). It is not allowed to appeal to make appeal conditional upon saying who was driving:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/64401866#Comment_64401866
That was 11 years ago by David Dunford at the DVLA.
Reiterate in the your reply that you are the registered keeper and are perfectly entitled to appeal. Re-appeal and complain.PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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Under the heading Important notice to Registered Keeper the very first paragraph states that "you can appeal directly to the Operator".1 -
Is the "evidence" a pair of photos showing you entering and leaving? And if so, are they timestamped with the same times written in the letter, 11 seconds apart?If they've just made an error transferring the timestamps onto the letter, then it's surely just an administrative inconsequence. But if they are genuinely attempting to charge you for "parking" for 11 seconds, then I would gladly let this go all the way to court and see the court's reaction to being asked to rule that 11 seconds constitutes "parking".1
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Interested to see the photos. I suspect covert CCTV on a building, focussed on your car, not ANPR at the entrance.
Covert surveillance is illegal.
Please show us the photos on their website when you pretend to pay. DO NOT PAY!PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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Stonk said:Is the "evidence" a pair of photos showing you entering and leaving? And if so, are they timestamped with the same times written in the letter, 11 seconds apart?If they've just made an error transferring the timestamps onto the letter, then it's surely just an administrative inconsequence. But if they are genuinely attempting to charge you for "parking" for 11 seconds, then I would gladly let this go all the way to court and see the court's reaction to being asked to rule that 11 seconds constitutes "parking".1
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aynz said:Stonk said:Is the "evidence" a pair of photos showing you entering and leaving? And if so, are they timestamped with the same times written in the letter, 11 seconds apart?If they've just made an error transferring the timestamps onto the letter, then it's surely just an administrative inconsequence. But if they are genuinely attempting to charge you for "parking" for 11 seconds, then I would gladly let this go all the way to court and see the court's reaction to being asked to rule that 11 seconds constitutes "parking".
226 Misleading actions
(1) For the purposes of this Chapter, a commercial practice involves a misleading action if the practice involves—
(a) the provision of false or misleading information relating to a product, a trader or any other matter relevant to a transactional decision,
(b) an overall presentation which is likely to deceive the average consumer about a matter relating to a product, a trader or any other matter relevant to a transactional decision,
(c) any marketing of a product which creates confusion, or is likely to create confusion, with any product, trade mark, trade name or other distinguishing mark of another trader, or
(d) a failure to comply with a requirement in a code of conduct to which subsection (5) applies in circumstances where the trader asserts that the trader acts in compliance with that code.
and specifically from the CMA we have this clarity about the new aspects to prevent consumer harm:
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/67ee863298b3bac1ec299c81/Technical_note.pdf
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