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Moorside "Letter Before Claim" without details or response time

Hello all,

I received this "Letter Before Claim" a few days ago relating to a very old parking charge (2020). I did not pay it and have been ignoring the debt collectors (location was Waterside Inn Leamington Spa, which was closed during covid).

It does not contain any information about the charge or purported infringement, and does not request response within a set time. As I understand this is in breach of pre-action protocol. I have searched the forum but not found any examples of a Letter Before Claim that is this sparse.

Should I consider this a genuine Letter Before Claim even though it has no response time and reply to it as described in the newbies thread?



Many Thanks

Jamie

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  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 19 September at 10:51PM
    JTurtle said:
    Hello all,

    I received this "Letter Before Claim" a few days ago relating to a very old parking charge (2020). I did not pay it and have been ignoring the debt collectors (location was Waterside Inn Leamington Spa, which was closed during covid).

    It does not contain any information about the charge or purported infringement, and does not request response within a set time. As I understand this is in breach of pre-action protocol. I have searched the forum but not found any examples of a Letter Before Claim that is this sparse.

    Should I consider this a genuine Letter Before Claim even though it has no response time and reply to it as described in the newbies thread?



    Many Thanks

    Jamie
    Yes it is a LBC, of sorts. Same as this one:
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81579338/#Comment_81579338

    Your username has made me smile today - and I can't say why because it's a personal thing! 

     :D 

    Anyway, that's a new letter and I thank you for posting it. Shocking lies about additional costs being added "BEFORE A CLAIM IS ISSUED", in bold there!

    Did you know that the President of the BPA (Trade Body) is also a Director of APN Group (Trace Debt Recovery and Moorside Legal)?

    It is an astonishing conflict of interests, akin to Will Hurley's efforts when he astonishingly got the DVLA to let his firm, Gladstones solicitors become a second Trade Body.

    I'm horrified by the lie about costs in this letter. Will be using it for evidence for the Public Consultation.

    And if you want to be part of the push to change things in future, it's very important that people like you tell the Government
    about your experience and show them that letter please, pointing out the BPA President (Mike Marrs) conflict of interests and the LIES about added costs 'before court' over and above the extortionate £170.

    You couldn't make it up - but Mike Marrs' company has...

    Responses are invited to the Consultation now:

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6617396/parking-code-of-practice-consultation-8-weeks-from-11th-july-2025/p1

    We will discuss it on that thread next week if you want to know what issues we think are important.
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  • JTurtle
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    Thank you, much appreciated I shall reply as per template and await further action.

    Their behaviour certainly stinks!

    Absolutely I will contribute to the consultation, I'm keen to do my bit to disrupt these scams in the future.
  • Coupon-mad
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    JTurtle said:
    Thank you, much appreciated I shall reply as per template and await further action.

    Their behaviour certainly stinks!

    Absolutely I will contribute to the consultation, I'm keen to do my bit to disrupt these scams in the future.
    What's the latest?

    FIGHTBACK ALERT: one week left if you didn't submit your full responses yet?

    Please do the government's Public Consultation. We need every poster to complete this vital survey before the deadline next week. See this thread:

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6617396/parking-code-of-practice-consultation-now-extended-closes-friday-26th-september/p1

    We understand that you may need some pointers. It looks laborious, we get that. It doesn't matter; no knowledge is needed except re your own experiences so you can call out a scam industry and you'll protect millions of motorists and help change the law. 

    I've written some guidance to help focus new posters on the issues. I've covered almost every question, providing ideas if you agree with our stance on things like DRFs, which we say must be banned.

    Ordinary people like you are falling victim to this scam over 18 million times per annum. Motorists need your voice added please.

    CLOSES ON FRIDAY 26th SEPTEMBER.

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