Is FTTP compulsory

Mwat

Do I have to have FTTP fitted or not.
currently our  FTTC works perfectly and the speed is adequate for our needs.
Reading articles about the subject is confusing as some say it’s down to the individual if they want it or not and other notices say that it has to be done sometime in 2027.
Searching the question on any broadband providers website will always steer you to changing as it’s business for them, but nowhere, independently, can I find the answer to my question.
Thankyou

Peter999_2

Yes, all the copper wire is being removed and replaced by fibre to the premises.    It is even more reliable than FTTC.     The first step is for Openreach to put a STOP to any orders/moves for FTTC or ADSL in an area - so if you even want to move providers you can't stay on FTTC/ADSL.

Is there a reason that you don't want FTTP?   It's usually quite a simple install, at my house they just replaced the copper wire with fibre and you wouldn't know any difference.   It's ok saying it's adequate for your needs now - but what about in the future?   In 2001 I got half a Mbps connection and that was great, really fast.   Can you imagine if there were no upgrades since then?

westv

Wrong forum lol!!
Here in Hull FTTP is all we have.

Mwat

Peter999_2

The reason is all the hassle the installation will cause.
To get our house it will have to go under a hedge and then a lawn and then a recently laid tarmac path, inside the house the router isn’t near an outside wall it is situated in the middle of the house where the current telephone socket and a double plug socket are, this will mean holes in the wall, wires running along skirting boards etc.
This all seems a lot of disturbance for something that we don’t want and it seems to be being forced onto us.
Cheers 

artyboy

Wrong board?

Mwat

Oh yeah I’ve just noticed the heading….
sorry, this is only second time I’ve used this forum, in the future I’ll be more careful.
Cheers

FrugaiMacDugal

Ok, I've reported it, so shoud be moved.

QrizB

Mwat said:

Do I have to have FTTP fitted or not.

Eventually yes, you probably will.

At some time OpenReach will stop anyone taking new FTTC services from your exchange. You'll be able to stay with your existing FTTC service but any switch will require FTTP.

molerat

FTTC is not going away anytime soon, the last bit will still be over copper for many for quite a while - they are not going to get FTTP to everyone by 2027.  What will definitely be stopping though is the landline analogue phone service, voice will still travel over the last bit of copper but digitally via your broadband service to your router.  You will eventually have to change over when you move provider if there is a stop on your cabinet or when they do completely cease FTTC from your exchange but I suspect you will get a definitive notice well before then - if FTTC is available at your property that will be sooner rather than later.  What does the BT checker state for your address / landline number ? https://www.broadbandchecker.btwholesale.com/#/ADSL

Albermarle

Mwat said:

Peter999_2

The reason is all the hassle the installation will cause.
To get our house it will have to go under a hedge and then a lawn and then a recently laid tarmac path, inside the house the router isn’t near an outside wall it is situated in the middle of the house where the current telephone socket and a double plug socket are, this will mean holes in the wall, wires running along skirting boards etc.
This all seems a lot of disturbance for something that we don’t want and it seems to be being forced onto us.
Cheers 

When we had FTTP fitted the installation engineer said it was not possible to have the connection anywhere other than an outside wall, as the fibre was not suitable for bending around sharp corners etc.
Our router was also in the middle of the house, so the choice was for us to run cables from the fibre connection box,
or move the router to the front of the house. We did the latter, although that is the opposite of what BT advise in terms of wireless coverage.
Not scientific research, but the broadband seems more stable than it was. 

brewerdave

Peter999_2 said:

Yes, all the copper wire is being removed and replaced by fibre to the premises.    It is even more reliable than FTTC.     The first step is for Openreach to put a STOP to any orders/moves for FTTC or ADSL in an area - so if you even want to move providers you can't stay on FTTC/ADSL.

Is there a reason that you don't want FTTP?   It's usually quite a simple install, at my house they just replaced the copper wire with fibre and you wouldn't know any difference.   It's ok saying it's adequate for your needs now - but what about in the future?   In 2001 I got half a Mbps connection and that was great, really fast.   Can you imagine if there were no upgrades since then?

Just for info, the two things are not connected - ie the old copper/aluminium infrastructure is not actually being removed at the same time as the changeover to fibre - the two systems are operating in parallel - whether at some future date Openreach decide to physically recover the copper cables ? Who knows - and some of it will be far too expensive to make it worthwhile.