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UK Fire Door Regulations for Landlords

Friedbagel
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Does anyone know what the UK Fire Door Regulations are for Landlords? I own a small studio flat that I have owned for 6 years with no problems and a happy tenant. Yet now am being forced by the managing agents to replace my front door and a laundry room door for £2,818.80. This is as part of a planned replacement of the fire doors with their contractor for the whole of the block. 37 of the 39 flats have agreed to the proposed works, 2 have not agreed. The management company who are a group of fellow landlords are aggressive having fined me £50 for not responding to an email over this in time when their email was not received going to my junk folder and threatening me with a £100 fine of I didn't pay within 7 days. Have the UK Fire Door regulations changed and what are my obligations as a landlord? I am happy to do any works to comply with regulations for my long term tenant. However how can I find out if it is necessary to have the fire doors for the flat done at this huge expense that I will have to pay for?
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Friedbagel said:Does anyone know what the UK Fire Door Regulations are for Landlords? I own a small studio flat that I have owned for 6 years with no problems and a happy tenant. Yet now am being forced by the managing agents to replace my front door and a laundry room door for £2,818.80. This is as part of a planned replacement of the fire doors with their contractor for the whole of the block. 37 of the 39 flats have agreed to the proposed works, 2 have not agreed. The management company who are a group of fellow landlords are aggressive having fined me £50 for not responding to an email over this in time when their email was not received going to my junk folder and threatening me with a £100 fine of I didn't pay within 7 days. Have the UK Fire Door regulations changed and what are my obligations as a landlord? I am happy to do any works to comply with regulations for my long term tenant. However how can I find out if it is necessary to have the fire doors for the flat done at this huge expense that I will have to pay for?0
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Friedbagel said:Does anyone know what the UK Fire Door Regulations are for Landlords? I own a small studio flat that I have owned for 6 years with no problems and a happy tenant. Yet now am being forced by the managing agents to replace my front door and a laundry room door for £2,818.80. This is as part of a planned replacement of the fire doors with their contractor for the whole of the block. 37 of the 39 flats have agreed to the proposed works, 2 have not agreed. The management company who are a group of fellow landlords are aggressive having fined me £50 for not responding to an email over this in time when their email was not received going to my junk folder and threatening me with a £100 fine of I didn't pay within 7 days. Have the UK Fire Door regulations changed and what are my obligations as a landlord? I am happy to do any works to comply with regulations for my long term tenant. However how can I find out if it is necessary to have the fire doors for the flat done at this huge expense that I will have to pay for?
It might well be that the fire management method has changed to a stay put policy. This means that if there was ever a fire outside in the communal areas then the flat would provide protection for 45-60 minutes for the tenant to stay inside and wait to be rescued. Or if there was a fire inside the flat, then it would stay contained within your premises and not spread elsewhere throughout the building.
As part of that, upgrading the doors are vitally important to make sure they are compliant. The laundry room may be needed because it houses high risk appliances (such as washing machines, tumble dryers etc), so that is not overly surprising that they want that internal door upgraded too. If it wasn't a studio, then its not uncommon for the kitchen door to be a fire resistant one for this reason.
Other than that, I can only think that a recent Fire Risk Assessment was undertaken of the block and it was recommended that the doors are replaced to be fire resistant.
Fire Safety has changed massively (and rightly so) since Grenfell and its becoming a lot more strict - so this has probably been in the pipeline for sometime.
Although I would say £2810 to replace 2 fire doors is excessively high. Did the management agency produce a S20 notice to all the leaseholders about these works?2 -
There was a fire in Grenfell Tower a few years ago, I don’t know if regulations have changed but the landscape has changed, we had all new fire doors fitted at our block, in my last two workplaces we had all sorts of fire related things done post Grenfell.35 NS&I
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owls1867 said:Friedbagel said:Does anyone know what the UK Fire Door Regulations are for Landlords? I own a small studio flat that I have owned for 6 years with no problems and a happy tenant. Yet now am being forced by the managing agents to replace my front door and a laundry room door for £2,818.80. This is as part of a planned replacement of the fire doors with their contractor for the whole of the block. 37 of the 39 flats have agreed to the proposed works, 2 have not agreed. The management company who are a group of fellow landlords are aggressive having fined me £50 for not responding to an email over this in time when their email was not received going to my junk folder and threatening me with a £100 fine of I didn't pay within 7 days. Have the UK Fire Door regulations changed and what are my obligations as a landlord? I am happy to do any works to comply with regulations for my long term tenant. However how can I find out if it is necessary to have the fire doors for the flat done at this huge expense that I will have to pay for?
It might well be that the fire management method has changed to a stay put policy. This means that if there was ever a fire outside in the communal areas then the flat would provide protection for 45-60 minutes for the tenant to stay inside and wait to be rescued. Or if there was a fire inside the flat, then it would stay contained within your premises and not spread elsewhere throughout the building.
As part of that, upgrading the doors are vitally important to make sure they are compliant. The laundry room may be needed because it houses high risk appliances (such as washing machines, tumble dryers etc), so that is not overly surprising that they want that internal door upgraded too. If it wasn't a studio, then its not uncommon for the kitchen door to be a fire resistant one for this reason.
Other than that, I can only think that a recent Fire Risk Assessment was undertaken of the block and it was recommended that the doors are replaced to be fire resistant.
Fire Safety has changed massively (and rightly so) since Grenfell and its becoming a lot more strict - so this has probably been in the pipeline for sometime.
Although I would say £2810 to replace 2 fire doors is excessively high. Did the management agency produce a S20 notice to all the leaseholders about these works?
Depending on how your front door does or doesn't comply with the requirements, for example:
Is the door an FD 30 or FD 60?
Does it have self closing hinges or an overhead door closer fitted?
Are any gaps around the door within the limits permitted?
Does the door have intumescent strips?
There may be things you can do to upgrade your current front door rather than getting a new one, but I can also see that the managing agents want to ensure all doors in the block are fully compliant, and replacement is the easiest way of ensuring this.
I don't think there's anything you can do about the cost of the laundry room door though.
Has there been a fire safety inspection of the flat front door, and have you been sent a report of this?1 -
owls1867 said: Although I would say £2810 to replace 2 fire doors is excessively high. Did the management agency produce a S20 notice to all the leaseholders about these works?Friedbagel said: The management company who are a group of fellow landlords are aggressive having fined me £50 for not responding to an email over this in time when their email was not received going to my junk folder and threatening me with a £100 fine of I didn't pay within 7 days.
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Hi all thank you all for your replies to my posts this has been really helpful. To update you all I did the work with a local firedoor company who did not need to replace the front door. They also issued a compliance certificate to the managing agents. However I received this email late tonight from the managing agents suggesting they are not happy with the work. The managing agents recommended that I replace the front door in their independent fire door survey and as shown in my posts they have been very aggressive imposing fines. The managing agents are now asking the same independent people back - what should I do if their report disagrees with the local firedoor company's compliance report?
Dear Lessee,
Of the 39 lessees at Hilton Grange, only you and one other lessee elected to arrange your own works in relation to your flat entrance door’s fire safety compliance (Option.
As you will recall, Hilton Grange Ltd engaged an independent third-party contractor earlier this year to review all 39 doors. The detailed reports on your door, frame, and furniture were provided to you on 22 April 2025.
We acknowledge your recent confirmation that works have been completed. However, a further independent contractor has since taken a look at your door and based on what he has seen has recommended to Hilton Grange Ltd that a proper independent certification be undertaken to confirm compliance.
Accordingly, Hilton Grange Ltd will instruct All England, the same company that undertook the original detailed review, to visit again and assess whether the works to your door meet the required fire safety standard. For fairness and consistency, All England will also be asked to undertake the same type of confirmation for a selection of the other 37 doors/frames.
The visit will take place at the end of September, with the exact date and time to be confirmed shortly.
Kind regards,Board of DirectorsHilton Grange Ltd
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