Selling car would you admit it needed costly repairs?

photome

WellKnownSid said:

photome said:

sandyman80 said:

I just bought a new Honda Jazz hybrid advance.

It is in the country somewhere.

Delivery 28th July. The purchase order says 28th July but if they don't tax it and deliver it until 1st Aug I can wait until then.

Better waiting till the 1st rather than paying a months tax for 3 days

No you will get a year and a week of tax

What has changed? 

As far as I know tax runs from the 1st of the month so if taxed part way through a month you are charged from the 1st so essentially losing a whole month if taxed on the 28th

WellKnownSid

photome said:

WellKnownSid said:

photome said:

sandyman80 said:

I just bought a new Honda Jazz hybrid advance.

It is in the country somewhere.

Delivery 28th July. The purchase order says 28th July but if they don't tax it and deliver it until 1st Aug I can wait until then.

Better waiting till the 1st rather than paying a months tax for 3 days

No you will get a year and a week of tax

What has changed? 

As far as I know tax runs from the 1st of the month so if taxed part way through a month you are charged from the 1st so essentially losing a whole month if taxed on the 28th

Nothing - every new car I have ever bought came with a year-and-a-bit of tax, even in the 90's.

It would be stupid to do it any other way otherwise every car buyer in the land would only want to pick their new car up at one second past midnight on the 1st of the month - can't see that working can you?

MSE Money saving tip.  Save £££ on your road tax by always picking your new car up at one second past midnight on the first of the month...

photome

WellKnownSid said:

photome said:

WellKnownSid said:

photome said:

sandyman80 said:

I just bought a new Honda Jazz hybrid advance.

It is in the country somewhere.

Delivery 28th July. The purchase order says 28th July but if they don't tax it and deliver it until 1st Aug I can wait until then.

Better waiting till the 1st rather than paying a months tax for 3 days

No you will get a year and a week of tax

What has changed? 

As far as I know tax runs from the 1st of the month so if taxed part way through a month you are charged from the 1st so essentially losing a whole month if taxed on the 28th

Nothing - every new car I have ever bought came with a year-and-a-bit of tax, even in the 90's.

It would be stupid to do it any other way otherwise every car buyer in the land would only want to pick their new car up at one second past midnight on the 1st of the month - can't see that working can you?

MSE Money saving tip.  Save £££ on your road tax by always picking your new car up at one second past midnight on the first of the month...

Everything I read online seems to suggest you are wrong  and tax as I said runs from the 1st of the month, 

not everyone thinks about it and if tax for a year is £30 ( I know it’s not anymore) it’s irrelevant anyway 

can you point to a link that says different

facade

photome said:

WellKnownSid said:

photome said:

sandyman80 said:

I just bought a new Honda Jazz hybrid advance.

It is in the country somewhere.

Delivery 28th July. The purchase order says 28th July but if they don't tax it and deliver it until 1st Aug I can wait until then.

Better waiting till the 1st rather than paying a months tax for 3 days

No you will get a year and a week of tax

What has changed? 

As far as I know tax runs from the 1st of the month so if taxed part way through a month you are charged from the 1st so essentially losing a whole month if taxed on the 28th

If the car is on SORN or not taxed (because it is "in trade" or a new registration) and you apply for tax in the last 2 working days of the month, the tax starts on the 1st of the next month.

Whether that means there is no tax for those 2 days is not clear (as usual). Probably a hangover from when there used to be "Post Offices" (remember those? like "Police Stations" they used to be a common sight, now they are few and far between) issuing a paper licence disc and they probably sent the old ones back and only had the new ones then.

It is on the V10 form for use at a Post Office That Issues Vehicle Tax (see comment above ). Section B When to Apply  https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/application-for-vehicle-tax-v10

Bettie

facade said:

Bettie said:

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I really hope he found the intermittent fault that had plagued the car for the last six months.  My relative, a car mechanic had it for a month and couldn't find it. Trouble was that it drove fine for weeks then suddenly would cut out. Once when I was on the motorway overtaking it died. I lost all faith in it. 

Depends on whether you told him about it.

If you didn't he obviously won't know so it will have to wait until it happens again and they bring it back, then he will probably change the crank sensor, there is a good chance this is the fault- or the wiring to it.

If you did, he should just change it for the £20 it costs rather than have the car bounce back.

Yes I told him. He could see all the new wiring, plugs points etc. I told him it was intermittent and the engine warning light would come on but when the readings were taken it made little sense and fault after fault would show get repaired and happen again. Mechanic suspected the eml was faulty a year previous so he cleaned it and it behaved for a while then started again. If it wasn't for the cutting out, sometimes restarting, sometimes not, I would have kept the car, though it was 15 years old. 
When I saw it for sale I had the urge to go and buy it. Think I will pop in and ask him if he found the fault. 

JohnSwift10

WellKnownSid said:

photome said:

sandyman80 said:

I just bought a new Honda Jazz hybrid advance.

It is in the country somewhere.

Delivery 28th July. The purchase order says 28th July but if they don't tax it and deliver it until 1st Aug I can wait until then.

Better waiting till the 1st rather than paying a months tax for 3 days

No you will get a year and a week of tax

When I got my present car in March 20th 2011 it I always had to renew my tax on 1st March so you are wrong.

Even the TV licence works that way, get a new first TV licence on 29th January 2011 it renews on 1st January 2012 as my daughter foolishly did when she moved into her new house

WellKnownSid

JohnSwift10 said:

WellKnownSid said:

photome said:

sandyman80 said:

I just bought a new Honda Jazz hybrid advance.

It is in the country somewhere.

Delivery 28th July. The purchase order says 28th July but if they don't tax it and deliver it until 1st Aug I can wait until then.

Better waiting till the 1st rather than paying a months tax for 3 days

No you will get a year and a week of tax

When I got my present car in March 20th 2011 it I always had to renew my tax on 1st March so you are wrong.

Even the TV licence works that way, get a new first TV licence on 29th January 2011 it renews on 1st January 2012 as my daughter foolishly did when she moved into her new house

No, you get a year and a bit.  My current car was purchased 31st October 2023 and tax runs until end of October each year.

paul_c123

WellKnownSid said:

JohnSwift10 said:

WellKnownSid said:

photome said:

sandyman80 said:

I just bought a new Honda Jazz hybrid advance.

It is in the country somewhere.

Delivery 28th July. The purchase order says 28th July but if they don't tax it and deliver it until 1st Aug I can wait until then.

Better waiting till the 1st rather than paying a months tax for 3 days

No you will get a year and a week of tax

When I got my present car in March 20th 2011 it I always had to renew my tax on 1st March so you are wrong.

Even the TV licence works that way, get a new first TV licence on 29th January 2011 it renews on 1st January 2012 as my daughter foolishly did when she moved into her new house

No, you get a year and a bit.  My current car was purchased 31st October 2023 and tax runs until end of October each year.

Do you have a link to the .gov.uk website which shows you get "a year and a week" when applying for tax (actually its first registration and tax) for a new vehicle?

WellKnownSid

paul_c123 said:

WellKnownSid said:

JohnSwift10 said:

WellKnownSid said:

photome said:

sandyman80 said:

I just bought a new Honda Jazz hybrid advance.

It is in the country somewhere.

Delivery 28th July. The purchase order says 28th July but if they don't tax it and deliver it until 1st Aug I can wait until then.

Better waiting till the 1st rather than paying a months tax for 3 days

No you will get a year and a week of tax

When I got my present car in March 20th 2011 it I always had to renew my tax on 1st March so you are wrong.

Even the TV licence works that way, get a new first TV licence on 29th January 2011 it renews on 1st January 2012 as my daughter foolishly did when she moved into her new house

No, you get a year and a bit.  My current car was purchased 31st October 2023 and tax runs until end of October each year.

Do you have a link to the .gov.uk website which shows you get "a year and a week" when applying for tax (actually its first registration and tax) for a new vehicle?

No, perhaps speak with your dealer because honestly they'll just sort it for you.

In fact when I bought my last car I said "make sure it has the extra day on" and the salesman said "oh no, it'll be 12 months so you will need to tax the car again 1st October".

When he then came out with all the paperwork he seemed very surprised that it had more than a year of tax on it.

As I say, I've had it on every new car I've bought over the last 30 years or so, just surprised that so many people don't know about it.

paul_c123

It is possible to register a car to be first used for a date in the future. The registration and tax won't be valid in that first period eg a week, but the index can be known, assigned to a vehicle, the plate made up and fitted, and the vehicle driven on public roads (with trade plates) - also meaning it can be delivered to a customer.

Maybe this is where the confusion lies.

Maybe your dealer also forgot to tell you it can't be used until xxxxx date.