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Defence template advice for paragraph 3, which cases may be helpful?

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  • renlitai
    renlitai Posts: 38 Forumite
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    renlitai said:
    If anyone could point me to the right direction of cases or previous defences that are similar I would be grateful! I am wanting to get this one in today before I go back to night shifts.

    Once this one is in, I will address the other, however the circumstances are the same and would think my defence is also the same.  
    Just use the template defence.

    Or do I admit defeat because I have no defence? I’m so stressed and overwhelmed by it all I wonder if that is just better.
    No.
    Ok thank you. In the defence template for paragraph 3, do I leave blank? Or maybe you could offer some advice for a specific topic to cover in that part? I’m struggling as reading others defences, they have more reason and rationale. I have no defence from where I’m standing? 
  • renlitai
    renlitai Posts: 38 Forumite
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    renlitai said:
    If anyone could point me to the right direction of cases or previous defences that are similar I would be grateful! I am wanting to get this one in today before I go back to night shifts.

    Once this one is in, I will address the other, however the circumstances are the same and would think my defence is also the same.  
    Just use the template defence.

    Or do I admit defeat because I have no defence? I’m so stressed and overwhelmed by it all I wonder if that is just better.
    No.
    Sorry to double @ you. As you said, the defence needs to be sent in ASAP, and I have a blank paragraph 3. Should I just leave it this way? Do you have anything more specific I can refer to or write in this part? The defence template is great and have that, but in regards to para 3, the reasons and cases suggested arent relevant and therefore I have nothing to write? I really have no idea what to write, and will likely be submitting without the info in paragraph 3. 
  • DE_612183
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    renlitai said:
    renlitai said:
    If anyone could point me to the right direction of cases or previous defences that are similar I would be grateful! I am wanting to get this one in today before I go back to night shifts.

    Once this one is in, I will address the other, however the circumstances are the same and would think my defence is also the same.  
    Just use the template defence.

    Or do I admit defeat because I have no defence? I’m so stressed and overwhelmed by it all I wonder if that is just better.
    No.
    Sorry to double @ you. As you said, the defence needs to be sent in ASAP, and I have a blank paragraph 3. Should I just leave it this way? Do you have anything more specific I can refer to or write in this part? The defence template is great and have that, but in regards to para 3, the reasons and cases suggested arent relevant and therefore I have nothing to write? I really have no idea what to write, and will likely be submitting without the info in paragraph 3. 
    Don't have a blank para 3 - if numbered  renumber so 4 becomes 3 - if that makes sense...
  • renlitai
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    edited 22 July at 1:24PM
    DE_612183 said:
    renlitai said:
    renlitai said:
    If anyone could point me to the right direction of cases or previous defences that are similar I would be grateful! I am wanting to get this one in today before I go back to night shifts.

    Once this one is in, I will address the other, however the circumstances are the same and would think my defence is also the same.  
    Just use the template defence.

    Or do I admit defeat because I have no defence? I’m so stressed and overwhelmed by it all I wonder if that is just better.
    No.
    Sorry to double @ you. As you said, the defence needs to be sent in ASAP, and I have a blank paragraph 3. Should I just leave it this way? Do you have anything more specific I can refer to or write in this part? The defence template is great and have that, but in regards to para 3, the reasons and cases suggested arent relevant and therefore I have nothing to write? I really have no idea what to write, and will likely be submitting without the info in paragraph 3. 
    Don't have a blank para 3 - if numbered  renumber so 4 becomes 3 - if that makes sense...
    Yep Got it, thank you. 
    I think I have it sorted that I am using para 1-7 as per the new defence template and then adding from pararaph 4 onwards from the defence template in the newbies thread?
    As I havent added anything, I have a total of 11 paragraphs?
  • Coupon-mad
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    No. Use the Template Defence.

    And do NOT have a blank paragraph 3, obviously.  Unless you want your defence struck out for failing to respond to the POC,
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  • Coupon-mad
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    renlitai said:
    DE_612183 said:
    renlitai said:
    renlitai said:
    If anyone could point me to the right direction of cases or previous defences that are similar I would be grateful! I am wanting to get this one in today before I go back to night shifts.

    Once this one is in, I will address the other, however the circumstances are the same and would think my defence is also the same.  
    Just use the template defence.

    Or do I admit defeat because I have no defence? I’m so stressed and overwhelmed by it all I wonder if that is just better.
    No.
    Sorry to double @ you. As you said, the defence needs to be sent in ASAP, and I have a blank paragraph 3. Should I just leave it this way? Do you have anything more specific I can refer to or write in this part? The defence template is great and have that, but in regards to para 3, the reasons and cases suggested arent relevant and therefore I have nothing to write? I really have no idea what to write, and will likely be submitting without the info in paragraph 3. 
    Don't have a blank para 3 - if numbered  renumber so 4 becomes 3 - if that makes sense...
    Yep Got it, thank you. 
    I think I have it sorted that I am using para 1-7 as per the new defence template and then adding from pararaph 4 onwards from the defence template in the newbies thread?
    As I havent added anything, I have a total of 11 paragraphs?
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  • renlitai
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    Hello, I have defended both claims. I have a mediation next week for one of them. And the second has been lifted but no further correspondence just yet. Although Iv learnt to know that doesn’t mean it’s over. 
    Do you have any advice for the mediation? As I am nervous that as I have no defence the judge will be in their favour. I literally don’t know what to say because I knew there were restrictions and continued parking there anyway. 
  • Gr1pr
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    edited 29 October at 9:59AM
    Mediation advice is in post 2 in the newbies sticky thread in announcements,  or the first post in the defence template thread in announcements in the 8 steps.  Have you not read that advice   ?  Have you not read other recent cases with the advice or feedback about Mediation  ?

    There is no judge at mediation,  do not discuss the case at all, mediation is about a monetary settlement 

    Some people say, no offer, I will not settle at this time, thank you and goodbye,  a 2 minutes phone call,  like this one below 

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81700605#Comment_81700605
  • renlitai
    renlitai Posts: 38 Forumite
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    Gr1pr said:
    Mediation advice is in post 2 in the newbies sticky thread in announcements,  or the first post in the defence template thread in announcements in the 8 steps.  Have you nit read that advice   ?  Have you not read other recent cases with the advice or feedback about Mediation  ?

    There is no judge at mediation,  do not discuss the case at all, mediation is about a monetary settlement 

    Some people say, no offer, I will not settle at this time, thank you and goodbye,  a 2 minutes phone call,  like this one below 

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81700605#Comment_81700605
    I have read the cases, and although I’m aware the mediation is solely about settlement, I am still apprehensive this will go further due to no settlement, and therefore the judge will not be in my favour due to lack of defence. Obviously I’m not there yet, so will take it as it comes. But I still have reservations. 
    My mediation call is today, so I will take it from there. 
    I pass cast my eyes over the threats again just to see if there’s anything else I can benefit from and use. 

    Thank you
  • Le_Kirk
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    The judge will have no knowledge of the mediation call and will judge the case on your defence against the POC and your and the claimant's witness statement.
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