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Defence template advice for paragraph 3, which cases may be helpful?

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  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 21 July at 12:28AM

    Have you already got a CCJ for that 9th June one?

    If not (and you might be lucky as PEye are not that quick to seek judgments) use the template defence and get a defence in NOW.
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  • Coupon-mad
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    Please start a new thread re this one:


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  • renlitai
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    Have you already got a CCJ for that 9th June one?

    If not (and you might be lucky as PEye are not that quick to seek judgments) use the template defence and get a defence in NOW.
    As far as I’m aware, I haven’t heard or had a letter to say I have one. 
    I am hoping to submit today but again, I really don’t know what to write in the defence because I know I’m in the wrong and don’t know what to say that will be a useable defence? 
  • renlitai
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    I have been scrolling through and reading other defences and the cases, but I honestly don't know what I can say that will be sufficient as a defence or even where to start. 
    I had parked in the space on multiple occasions to assist with my friends bad back / feed the dog and not received a charge prior. I believe these three occasions were related to helping her / dog duties.
    The land was not hers, she had a permit to park there as a resident. (The town is owned largely by the same person, who owns commercial and residential buildings). We have asked them to cancel the charge, to which they have said no. 
    There is a 10 minute grace period in which if you leave prior to this, there is no charge.
    I dont really have a defence other than choosing to ignore because they almost always (except in this case for me!) go away. 


  • DE_612183
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    renlitai said:
    I have been scrolling through and reading other defences and the cases, but I honestly don't know what I can say that will be sufficient as a defence or even where to start. 
    I had parked in the space on multiple occasions to assist with my friends bad back / feed the dog and not received a charge prior. I believe these three occasions were related to helping her / dog duties.
    The land was not hers, she had a permit to park there as a resident. (The town is owned largely by the same person, who owns commercial and residential buildings). We have asked them to cancel the charge, to which they have said no. 
    There is a 10 minute grace period in which if you leave prior to this, there is no charge.
    I dont really have a defence other than choosing to ignore because they almost always (except in this case for me!) go away. 


    What is the signage like ?

    What does it say ?
  • renlitai
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    DE_612183 said:
    renlitai said:
    I have been scrolling through and reading other defences and the cases, but I honestly don't know what I can say that will be sufficient as a defence or even where to start. 
    I had parked in the space on multiple occasions to assist with my friends bad back / feed the dog and not received a charge prior. I believe these three occasions were related to helping her / dog duties.
    The land was not hers, she had a permit to park there as a resident. (The town is owned largely by the same person, who owns commercial and residential buildings). We have asked them to cancel the charge, to which they have said no. 
    There is a 10 minute grace period in which if you leave prior to this, there is no charge.
    I dont really have a defence other than choosing to ignore because they almost always (except in this case for me!) go away. 


    What is the signage like ?

    What does it say ?
    There are around 4-5 of these signs in the car park 
  • DE_612183
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    and on the original PCN - what was the breach described as?
  • renlitai
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    DE_612183 said:
    and on the original PCN - what was the breach described as?
    I couldn’t tell you verbatim, as most of them went directly to the bin. But for parking here without a permit, over the allotted 10 minutes. 
  • renlitai
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    If anyone could point me to the right direction of cases or previous defences that are similar I would be grateful! I am wanting to get this one in today before I go back to night shifts. Once this one is in, I will address the other, however the circumstances are the same and would think my defence is also the same. Or do I admit defeat because I have no defence? I’m so stressed and overwhelmed by it all I wonder if that is just better. 
  • Coupon-mad
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    renlitai said:
    If anyone could point me to the right direction of cases or previous defences that are similar I would be grateful! I am wanting to get this one in today before I go back to night shifts.

    Once this one is in, I will address the other, however the circumstances are the same and would think my defence is also the same.  
    Just use the template defence.

    Or do I admit defeat because I have no defence? I’m so stressed and overwhelmed by it all I wonder if that is just better.
    No.
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