Advice - neighbours XL bully dog

elsien

sheramber said:

marcia_ said:

sheramber said:

My golden retriever/ collie cross growled at entire dogs. Should he be reported?

A  aggressive dog would nor growl a warning, It would be straight in   

 Your dog isn't a banned breed aka illegal and notorious for killing people 

The OP doesn’t know the dog is a banned breed.


It could be a mastiff, an American  bully as distinct from an  xl bullie , or a boxer staffy cross.

All these dogs  could look like an xl bullie. 
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OP  was concerned because it growled.   Growling  is a warning is a warning that a dog is uncomfortable which people tend to ignore or chastise a dog for giving a warning. 

If a dog is growling do not make eye contact, back away my slowly. 

Does   a dog have to kill people to be ‘ dangerous.?’.


Earlier this year my friend’s lab was attacked by a gsd type dog which suddenly appeared in a wood where she was walking. 

 The lab was traumatised and needed urgent surgery. He had  several bites including a hole between his ear canal and his cheek.

My friend was bitten while trying to protect her dog. She needed hospital care and has a large scar across her knee. 

But it was not an xl bullie and it didn’t kill her. 

Does that mean it is not a dangerous  dog? 

Breed specific legislation is totally wrong. 

I have a friend who was prosecuted in a very similar situation. so yes it would fall under the dangerous dogs act for any dog even if it’s not a specific breed. I also don’t agree with breed specific legislation but people can still be prosecuted either way if their dog is dangerously out of control. 

sheramber

elsien said:

sheramber said:

marcia_ said:

sheramber said:

My golden retriever/ collie cross growled at entire dogs. Should he be reported?

A  aggressive dog would nor growl a warning, It would be straight in   

 Your dog isn't a banned breed aka illegal and notorious for killing people 

The OP doesn’t know the dog is a banned breed.


It could be a mastiff, an American  bully as distinct from an  xl bullie , or a boxer staffy cross.

All these dogs  could look like an xl bullie. 
. 
OP  was concerned because it growled.   Growling  is a warning is a warning that a dog is uncomfortable which people tend to ignore or chastise a dog for giving a warning. 

If a dog is growling do not make eye contact, back away my slowly. 

Does   a dog have to kill people to be ‘ dangerous.?’.


Earlier this year my friend’s lab was attacked by a gsd type dog which suddenly appeared in a wood where she was walking. 

 The lab was traumatised and needed urgent surgery. He had  several bites including a hole between his ear canal and his cheek.

My friend was bitten while trying to protect her dog. She needed hospital care and has a large scar across her knee. 

But it was not an xl bullie and it didn’t kill her. 

Does that mean it is not a dangerous  dog? 

Breed specific legislation is totally wrong. 

I have a friend who was prosecuted in a very similar situation. so yes it would fall under the dangerous dogs act for any dog even if it’s not a specific breed. I also don’t agree with breed specific legislation but people can still be prosecuted either way if their dog is dangerously out of control. 

I am aware of that but my response was to the remark that because my dog was not a banned breed it was not a problem that he  reacted to other dogs. 

BungalowBel

I have seen one xl bully.  It was HUGE!  I don't think it could be mistaken for any other type of dog, even a mastiff type.  It looked far more stocky and tall.

(It was on a lead and muzzled).

I don't  agree with breed specific legislation either, but I suppose if a bull-type dog decided to grab hold of you, with those powerful jaws you would never be able to get it off, whereas with a non-bull breed it might be easier. 

The only dog that has ever bitten me was a small,  cute, white, fluffy bichon frise cross, looked like a powder puff.  It was totally unprovoked (all I was doing was walking past) and it gave no warning.  Just jumped off its owner's lap, ran after me and bit the back of my leg.

To the OP, I would try to find out more before I reported it.

 

LightFlare

 Bear in mind that the OPs dog was also off lead

Any dog v dog altercation would hold equal responsibility (unless one party is a banned/controlled breed)

Just because a person reacts to an animal it doesn’t mean it is dangerous - some people are just twitchy around certain things.

Personally, while out walking, I find that small dogs are often the most aggressive and likely to be off lead than bigger dogs.
The owners typically will get hysterical on seing a big dog but then comment “oh don’t mind little nipper, he’s only being friendly” as the thing proceeds to bark and snap around your ankles or that of the bigger dog who will only be pushed so far. On reacting, cue hysterics again

ANY dog has the potential to be dangerous and all dogs should be treated as if they are - i.e kept under control at all times

HampshireH

I'm struggling with he came and picked it up. As a previous response alluded to XL bullies aren't small nor easy to pick up. Especially an aggressive one.

OPs dog was off lead (just like the 2nd dog) and got growled at.

So two off lead dogs one running really fast (could be excitable),  interact and 1 growls. The perception is that the bigger dog is aggressive and shouldn't be there. The assumption is it's an XL bullies.

Always two sides to a story. This sounds like a huge over reaction based on the information provided. 

CurlySue2017

LightFlare said:

 Bear in mind that the OPs dog was also off lead

Any dog v dog altercation would hold equal responsibility (unless one party is a banned/controlled breed)

Just because a person reacts to an animal it doesn’t mean it is dangerous - some people are just twitchy around certain things.

Personally, while out walking, I find that small dogs are often the most aggressive and likely to be off lead than bigger dogs.
The owners typically will get hysterical on seing a big dog but then comment “oh don’t mind little nipper, he’s only being friendly” as the thing proceeds to bark and snap around your ankles or that of the bigger dog who will only be pushed so far. On reacting, cue hysterics again

ANY dog has the potential to be dangerous and all dogs should be treated as if they are - i.e kept under control at all times

This, this and this again!!
Ankle biters and their owners are by far the worst for aggression, you see it all the time 

jackieblack

My mum was bitten on the back of her ankle by a collie while walking in a group of Ramblers on a public footpath which ran through a farmyard. No apology from farmer's wife, who saw it happen,  just 'oh, she's not aggressive, just trained to round up sheep...' (My mum replied "Do I look like a sheep!?")

Any breed can bite or be aggressive, usually when provoked.
People don't always understand or react appropriately to the early warning signals, but it's the dog who usually ends up being blamed.

sheramber

jackieblack said:

My mum was bitten on the back of her ankle by a collie while walking in a group of Ramblers on a public footpath which ran through a farmyard. No apology from farmer's wife, who saw it happen,  just 'oh, she's not aggressive, just trained to round up sheep...' (My mum replied "Do I look like a sheep!?")

Any breed can bite or be aggressive, usually when provoked.
People don't always understand or react appropriately to the early warning signals, but it's the dog who usually ends up being blamed.

Typical working collie behaviour. A friend’s collie would nip- not bite- people when they went to leave the house. Herding them back . She had to be  restrained  to prevent it happening 

prowla

I'd report it - they clearly don't have control over the animal.