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URGENT HELP!! Deadline for Defence today 7 July e-mail sent after hours to CNBC

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I rushed and sent an e-mail defence to ClaimResponses.CNBC@justice.gov.uk  
I as worried about the time and sent it my e-mail at 16.45 tis is 28 days after service of notice having sent a AOS in time.
The charge is for not parking correctly in the bays.

I am worried that the time I sent it after 16.00 is too late, I also ned to know if my section 3 is ok, or what I need to do, maybe I need to go back and do it on the MCOL as abbreviated?
Also I need to know how/when to do or mention counter claim.
I am confused about the defence whether I say everything now including witnesses etc or if that is at the court case?
Ive read everything over the months bt with big gaps and I am now beyond deadline and really confused.
My section 3 was as below;
3. Referring to the POC: paragraph 1 is denied. The Defendant is not indebted to the Claimant. Paragraph 2 is denied.  Whilst the Defendant is the registered keeper, paragraphs 3 and 4 are denied. The Defendant is not liable and has seen no evidence of a breach of prominent terms.  The quantum is hugely exaggerated (no PCN can be £170 on private land) and there were no damages incurred whatsoever.
3.1 The defendant parked a wide bodied leisure vehicle to make a purchases totalling £100.07 in Aldi Supermarket and has the receipt and bank statement as well as other witnesses who were there on the day, who also have purchase history of that day.
3.2 The vehicle in question has a length of 6.12 meters and width including wing mirrors of 2.45 meters. There are no bays in this carpark designed for vehicles of this size which is inadequate and discriminatory for shoppers with vehicles that cannot fit the insufficient sized bays offered by this car park.
3.3 The defendant underline the fact that, unlike careless drivers who park cars inconsiderately and occupy more than one parking space completely unnecessarily, this was not true of the way in which the defendant parked on May 27, 2024.
 
3.4              If the defendant had tried to line up my motorhome in the centre of a parking space, the spaces on either side would have been impacted, thus rendering three parking spaces unusable for others. 
 
3.5              The defendant parked considerately by straddling a line marking, thus only occupying two spaces and not three.
 
3.6              Cctv cameras operated by UK Parking Control Ltd at Bell Green will show that at the time the defendant parked responsibly there were many free parking spaces.
 
3.7              The fact that many parking spaces were available demonstrates that the defendant’s actions did not deprive other users of the opportunity to choose a wide variety of spaces.
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  • Paved_Parad1se
    Paved_Parad1se Posts: 14 Forumite
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    Also now if I've said too much can I add more?
    Will the e-mail be disregarded because sent after 16.00 and I just do the MCOL before midnight?

    It is UK parking Control /DCB Legal
    issue date 4 Jun
    AOS sent and received on time

  • Gr1pr
    Gr1pr Posts: 7,847 Forumite
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    It wont be too late because the claimant wont have pressed the request judgment button,  but do check that you received the auto email response from the CNBC in Northampton,  in your inbox or spam folder , in which case it proves that they received it  ( no need to submit on MCOL   )

    A counter claim is submitted with the defence,  although few people have a good legal reason to counter claim anyway,  plus a fee has to be paid too

    The N180 stage is where you put down the likely number of witnesses 

    The WS stage in several months time is where you give your story and exhibits   ( evidence   )




  • Paved_Parad1se
    Paved_Parad1se Posts: 14 Forumite
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    I am so pleased you are here thank you!!
    The auto response said 

    Thank you for emailing the Claim Responses Team in the Civil National Business Centre. Please expect a response to your enquiry in 10 days

     

     

    When sending us documents please ensure you comply with the Practice Direction 5B


    Scope and Interpretation 1.1 This practice direction provides for parties to communicate and file specified documents with the court by e-mail in proceedings to which the Civil Procedure Rules apply. It also makes provision about the e-mail address to be used where a rule or practice direction states that communications or documents may be sent to or served on a body by e-mail.”. 1.2 This ...
    www.justice.gov.uk

     

    Documents not complying will not be accepted, in particular if it is over 10MB or 25 printed pages in size.

     

     

     

  • Paved_Parad1se
    Paved_Parad1se Posts: 14 Forumite
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    also did I mess up with the number 3 I used the whole of the template and then 3 as mentioned above...
  • Paved_Parad1se
    Paved_Parad1se Posts: 14 Forumite
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    Also did I mess up because I copied the whole defense to the e-mail body as well as attaching it.
    Do I need to resend it, without it being in the body?
  • Gr1pr
    Gr1pr Posts: 7,847 Forumite
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    It should not matter,  keep checking your MCOL claim history every few days,  checking when its been logged 
  • Paved_Parad1se
    Paved_Parad1se Posts: 14 Forumite
    10 Posts
    Gr1pr said:
    It wont be too late because the claimant wont have pressed the request judgment button,  but do check that you received the auto email response from the CNBC in Northampton,  in your inbox or spam folder , in which case it proves that they received it  ( no need to submit on MCOL   )

    A counter claim is submitted with the defence,  although few people have a good legal reason to counter claim anyway,  plus a fee has to be paid too

    The N180 stage is where you put down the likely number of witnesses 

    The WS stage in several months time is where you give your story and exhibits   ( evidence   )




    Thank you so much, so to clarify as long as the e-mail was sent with some kind of anything, and the fact it was sent after 4pm on the 28th day, I should have more opportunities to defend my case.
    Also I would like to clarify I didn't break their rules by submitting the entire text of the defence in the body of the e-mail?  The defence was literally the template but number 3 I adjusted as below; 

    3. Referring to the POC: paragraph 1 is denied. The Defendant is not indebted to the Claimant. Paragraph 2 is denied.  Whilst the Defendant is the registered keeper, paragraphs 3 and 4 are denied. The Defendant is not liable and has seen no evidence of a breach of prominent terms.  The quantum is hugely exaggerated (no PCN can be £170 on private land) and there were no damages incurred whatsoever.
    3.1 The defendant parked a wide bodied leisure vehicle to make a purchases totalling £100.07 in Aldi Supermarket and has the receipt and bank statement as well as other witnesses who were there on the day, who also have purchase history of that day.
    3.2 The vehicle in question has a length of 6.12 meters and width including wing mirrors of 2.45 meters. There are no bays in this carpark designed for vehicles of this size which is inadequate and discriminatory for shoppers with vehicles that cannot fit the insufficient sized bays offered by this car park.
    3.3 The defendant underline the fact that, unlike careless drivers who park cars inconsiderately and occupy more than one parking space completely unnecessarily, this was not true of the way in which the defendant parked on May 27, 2024.
     
    3.4              If the defendant had tried to line up my motorhome in the centre of a parking space, the spaces on either side would have been impacted, thus rendering three parking spaces unusable for others. 
     
    3.5              The defendant parked considerately by straddling a line marking, thus only occupying two spaces and not three.
     
    3.6              Cctv cameras operated by UK Parking Control Ltd at Bell Green will show that at the time the defendant parked responsibly there were many free parking spaces.
     
    3.7              The fact that many parking spaces were available demonstrates that the defendant’s actions did not deprive other users of the opportunity to choose a wide variety of spaces.
     

    I am so sorry, I have spent hours and hours reading  everything, but over a month ago.
    Frazzled, time poor, poor and concerned.
  • Paved_Parad1se
    Paved_Parad1se Posts: 14 Forumite
    10 Posts
    Gr1pr said:
    It should not matter,  keep checking your MCOL claim history every few days,  checking when its been logged 
    Thank you so much for your time!
    I'm so grateful!
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 151,138 Forumite
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    Wad the attached PDF signed & dated? If yes, then your defence is in.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Paved_Parad1se
    Paved_Parad1se Posts: 14 Forumite
    10 Posts
    Wad the attached PDF signed & dated? If yes, then your defence is in.
    Typed first and last name and then dated
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