Wing Security - Haringey Council PCN

doubledotcom

Back in May, I submitted an FoI request to Haringey about their arrangement with Wing. These were the questions raised and their answers FYI:

1. Ownership or Control

a. Is the land at or near Miles Road, N8 where the sign is located owned, leased or managed by Haringey Council?

The section of Miles Road, N8 where the sign is located is private land managed by Haringey Council

b. If so, please provide the title reference and a description of the Council’s legal interest in the land.

The land in question is within the Council’s ownership under Land Registry freehold title no. NGL487212.

2. Authority for Parking Enforcement

a. Has Haringey Council entered into any contractual agreement or memorandum of understanding with Wing Security Ltd for the purposes of parking enforcement at this location?

Wing Security Ltd are under contract with Haringey Council to enforce parking on certain estates managed by Haringey Council, as indicated by appropriate signs.

b. If yes, please supply a copy of that contract or agreement, redacted only where strictly necessary.

A copy of the contract we have on file has been attached. Please note that the contract has since been renewed and an extension awarded. We are working with colleagues in strategic procurement, which we will be able to provide in due course.

3. Use of Haringey Council Branding

a. Has Wing Security Ltd been formally authorised to use the Haringey Council logo or branding on parking signage?

Yes.

b. If so, when was that authorisation granted and for what purpose?

Wing were instructed to provide signs including the Haringey Council logo in May 2022, for introduction from June 2022 following the incorporation of Homes for Haringey back into Haringey Council.

4. DVLA Data Access

a. Has Haringey Council authorised Wing Security Ltd to act on its behalf in obtaining DVLA vehicle keeper data for the purpose of issuing Parking Charge Notices (PCNs)?

Wing Security Ltd are unable to access DVLA keeper information.

b. Does Haringey Council itself access DVLA data in relation to alleged parking contraventions at Miles Road, N8? If so, please confirm under what statutory powers.

Haringey Council does not currently access DVLA data in relation to alleged parking contraventions at Miles Road, N8.

5. Type of Enforcement

a. Is parking enforcement at this location conducted under the Traffic Management Act 2004, local byelaws, or via a private civil contractual model?

Parking Enforcement at this location is currently managed via a private civil contractual model.

Coupon-mad

Obviously you just totally ignore Wing. Perfectly safe.

Schoolboy error replying to a firm who cannot get your data but nothing will happen. For goodness sake, this is NOT a 'fine' so don't compound your error by paying the thing!
 
And tell your visitors they can use those bays without fear of 'fine' because any Wing PCN isn't one and they cannot get your visitors' data nor can it go anywhere.

This is a hybrid ticket with as much clout as a burger king flyer so it goes straight in the bin.

Lucky you having free parking bays you can share with visitors! Perfect at Christmas & other celebrations.

PS 'Wings' was a 1980s band. No Paul McCartneys were injured by this thread.

Umkomaas

Coupon-mad said:

Obviously you just totally ignore Wing. Perfectly safe.

Schoolboy error replying to a firm who cannot get your data but nothing will happen. For goodness sake, this is NOT a 'fine' so don't compound your error by paying the thing!
 
And tell your visitors they can use those bays without fear of 'fine' because any Wing PCN isn't one and they cannot get your visitors' data nor can it go anywhere.

This is a hybrid ticket with as much clout as a burger king flyer so it goes straight in the bin.

Lucky you having free parking bays you can share with visitors! Perfect at Christmas & other celebrations.

PS 'Wings' was a 1980s band. No Paul McCartneys were injured by this thread.

🎵 Listen to what the man lady said! 🎵

shrimper2025

Thank you so much for the help. "This is a hybrid ticket with as much clout as a burger king flyer so it goes straight in the bin." Why is this? It is because Wings are not part of the ATA / BPA / IPC? I am just worried that as they have my details, they could pursue civil action against me! Has anyone on these forums got any experience of Wings pursuing them for an unpaid parking ticket?

ChirpyChicken

Stop worrying and forget about it

They are an irrelevance

Umkomaas

shrimper2025 said:

Thank you so much for the help. "This is a hybrid ticket with as much clout as a burger king flyer so it goes straight in the bin." Why is this? It is because Wings are not part of the ATA / BPA / IPC? I am just worried that as they have my details, they could pursue civil action against me! Has anyone on these forums got any experience of Wings pursuing them for an unpaid parking ticket?

No evidence to my knowledge, and I've been here for years! 👴🏻

Coupon-mad

Seconded. Nothing happens.