Abandoned Irish vehicle outside property in SW London

MX5huggy

I would contact your local councillor. They’ll be delighted to be “working in the interests of the local community”.

Merry_Mawkin

Herzlos said:

For a UK registered car, you can always apply for a new V5, and then when you own it, get a scrap yard to collect it. 

I don't think there'd be anything illegal about it, but I'd use something like a mailbox account for it incase the original owner took offense. 

I would try that but one thing if on false plates which are inside and covering the VIN the DVLA have no record so how do I apply for a new V5?? 

Car_54

Herzlos said:

For a UK registered car, you can always apply for a new V5, and then when you own it, get a scrap yard to collect it. 

I don't think there'd be anything illegal about it, but I'd use something like a mailbox account for it in case the original owner took offense. 

The V5 is not proof of ownership. It says so in big red type at the top of page 1. Getting the V5  does not make you the owner.

Anything illegal? Theft? Fraud?

Even if this was a good idea, you can't register a car with a mailbox address.

Herzlos

They wouldn't be becoming the owner, they'd just be in a position to give a V5 to a scrap yard to deal with it.  It'd also allow the DVLA to write to the existing owner to let them know someone is trying to deal with it. 

The mailbox part is an issue though, as is presumably the ongoing insurance obligation once it's registered. 

paul_c123

Why would the DVLA know the existing owner of an Irish car?

Beaky2000

I think there are two convos going on here.

The DVLA are not interested in a vehicle with ROI plates. Although after 6 months on English soil, it should be registered over here & UK plates attached. 

The council came again to inspect, this time from parking enforcement. Cannot do anything. I explained that the car was not displaying valid tax and that was illegal. They seem very confused. 

paul_c123

Is it not so much looking abandoned, its just that its in "your" spot?

Beaky2000

I’m not sure what you mean by my ‘spot’. I don’t live in a street with reserved parking and as far as I understand, taxed vehicles can park anywhere (abiding by local cpz, etc). But this car

has not moved in near on 6 months
is not taxed albeit with ROI tax / MOT disc
no-one
 on our neighbourhood chat (which spans 3 streets) knows anything about it.
has 4 parking tickets on it
and a flyer asking if it could be sold for scrap.

seems abandoned to me. 

born_again

Beaky2000 said:

I’m not sure what you mean by my ‘spot’. I don’t live in a street with reserved parking and as far as I understand, taxed vehicles can park anywhere (abiding by local cpz, etc). But this car

has not moved in near on 6 months
is not taxed albeit with ROI tax / MOT disc
no-one
 on our neighbourhood chat (which spans 3 streets) knows anything about it.
has 4 parking tickets on it
and a flyer asking if it could be sold for scrap.

seems abandoned to me. 

Engaged with your local councillor?

Aretnap

Herzlos said:

They wouldn't be becoming the owner, they'd just be in a position to give a V5 to a scrap yard to deal with it.  It'd also allow the DVLA to write to the existing owner to let them know someone is trying to deal with it. 

The mailbox part is an issue though, as is presumably the ongoing insurance obligation once it's registered. 

You are not allowed to just help yourself to someone else's property and dispose of it as if it were your own, even if it is cluttering up the street outside your house and even if it out does look a bit unsightly. 

There are exceptions - if it's on your own land the Torts (Interference with Goods Act) provides a mechanism for you to dispose of it if the owner won't remove it in a reasonable time period, and if you're the council you have statutory powers to deal with abandoned vehicles. But a private citizen isn't allowed to go lifting cars from the street just because they think they might be abandoned.