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Judgement for Claimant in default, even though I replied to the Claim form on time

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  • Scubanutta
    Scubanutta Posts: 34 Forumite
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    HMCTS are responding with the usual fob-off that the claim was sent out but are not answering the question about why an N30 Judgment for Claimant (in default) form was printed on the reverse of a Claim and Response pack cover letter. The response you receive will need to be escalated to Stage 2.

    I also suggest you SAR the CNBC and make sure you include the following in it:

    Please provide all personal data you hold about me in connection with this case, including but not limited to:

    • All correspondence sent to or from me

    • The MCOL claim form (N1SDT) and any documents issued or purportedly served

    • Any records of printing, postage or despatch of the N1SDT and response pack

    • Internal notes, audit trails, and system logs showing the creation, handling or dispatch of documents

    • Any correspondence or documentation relating to the default judgment (Form N30)

    • Metadata or system data related to the printing of the documents I received (a claim pack cover letter and N30 printed on the same A4 sheet)

    I also request an explanation of how my personal data was processed during this case, including decisions made about printing, bundling, and despatch.

    I expect a full response within the statutory deadline of one month from receipt of this request.

    You'll need to provide a copy of photo ID (I know it is not essential but they will ask for it anyway, if not provided) and a copy of a recent bill or statement with your address on it as proof of identity.

    I have also noticed that these default CCJs are being registered before the 30 day payment period has expired.
    SAR? Could you advise what this means?
  • Coupon-mad
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    True. Appalling admin.
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  • Le_Kirk
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    SAR? Could you advise what this means?
    All acronyms are in the fifth post of the NEWBIE sticky but to save you the trouble of going to look it is Subject Access Request.
  • holybruce
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    After complaining they have since got back and made all the necessary fix
  • ChirpyChicken
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    holybruce said:
    After complaining they have since got back and made all the necessary fix
    Good to hear just keep an eye out on dates on court paper work etc.
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 21 August 2025 at 8:33PM
    holybruce said:
    After complaining they have since got back and made all the necessary fix
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  • holybruce
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    Update

    My circumstance is pretty much a carbon copy to this successful one , also happened in the same same year 2023

    I have a hearing scheduled this week, Gladstone solicitors submitted their DS stating they wont be able to attend the hearing.

    I submitted my WS and in there I highlighted with photo evidence some of the discrepancy in their evidence, similar to the evidence in the thread above. I also citied Chan vs CEL and CPM vs Akande and issues with the POFA.

    Their Solicitors has since then submitted a SKELETON ARGUMENT, here are someone of the points, in their skeleton argument.

    1. Following the breach, the Claimant obtained the registered keeper’s details from DVLA under KADOE
      and issued a PCN to the Defendant as registered keeper which was posted the same day (GS4). The PCN
      gave clear options: pay; name the driver with a serviceable address; or appeal internally and then to
      POPLA. No payment or substantive response was received and a reminder/liability notice followed (GS5).
    2. The Defendant’s application to strike out based on pleading form is misconceived. This is an MCOL claim
      to which PD7C applies; the online particulars are character-limited and routinely supplemented by pre-
      action correspondence and evidence. Here, the Defendant was on notice of the allegation (maximum stay
      exceeded), the location, date, vehicle, and the sum claimed, and could plead a proper response.
    3. The Defendant’s reliance on Civil Enforcement Ltd v Chan and CPM v Akande is misplaced. Those cases
      turn on materially different particulars and do not establish any general rule that parking claims issued via
      MCOL are liable to be struck out where the pleaded case, taken with the notices and evidence, makes the
      claim intelligible. In this case, the essential facts are clear: contract by signage, maximum stay term, ANPR
      entry/exit times, and unpaid PCN.
    4. The Defendant also points to an alleged discrepancy between £80 and £70. The principal sum is £70 as
      pleaded in the Claimant’s evidence and schedule. Any minor typographical inconsistency does not
      invalidate the cause of action and is not a basis for strike out. The Court can, if necessary, treat the claim as
      advanced for the properly evidenced principal sum and fixed recoverables.
    5. The Defendant’s POFA points do not assist on these facts. The Claimant’s case is proved by the ANPR
      evidence of overstay and the contract formed by signage. Further, the Defendant has not adduced a
      coherent factual case identifying an alternative driver or providing a serviceable address for any driver,
      despite being given that option. In any event, the Court is invited to determine liability on the evidence as a
      whole.
    6. The Defendant asserts signage was inadequate, unlit, not at the entrance, and that the Claimant has used
      photos “from a different site”. Those assertions are denied. The Claimant relies on the site plan and signage
      photographs (GS1–GS2) showing signage throughout the Site, providing the driver a fair opportunity to
      read terms when entering and parking.
    7. ParkingEye Ltd v Beavis [2015] UKSC 67 confirms that clear signage can form a binding contract and that
      a parking charge can be enforceable where it serves a legitimate interest in managing parking. This is a
      time-limit car park at a supermarket; the maximum stay term is a standard and legitimate means of
      ensuring turnover for customers.
    8. The Defence is generic, does not comply with CPR 16.5 in that it fails to engage properly with the key
      factual allegations (maximum stay exceeded, ANPR timings, and the contractual term breached), and raises
      largely technical points divorced from the material facts. The Claimant has proved breach on the balance of
      probabilities and is entitled to judgment.
    9. The Claimant seeks the principal sum, fixed costs, fees, and interest as pleaded. If the Defendant continues
      to pursue a strike out narrative and costs under CPR 27.14(2)(g) absent proper basis, the Claimant reserves
      the right to invite the Court to find the Defendant’s conduct unreasonable and to make an appropriate costs
      order.

    I am just wondering what is my next point of call?, when I attend the court is there any advice or pointers I must say to the judge etc

    Thanks in advance

  • Coupon-mad
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    You can read about hearing stage tips in post 2 of the NEWBIES thread.

    And read recent threads with a court report. There are loads, including one reported here last week at Stockport court.

    Or search for ANOTHER ONE BITES Gladstones

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  • holybruce
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    edited 16 March at 1:48PM

    Ok I will have a read thorough that, cheers

  • holybruce
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    Update:

    Another one bites the dust, their solicitors did not turn up. It was me and the judge, she struck out the claims based on incoherent defence, she was very understanding and also made sure I am awarded for travel, parking and also maximum she was allowed.

    Thanks all

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