cliam for unpaid petrol

born_again

HillStreetBlues said:

tyco99 said:

  They sent 3 pictures: 1 of my car at the pump, one of me putting petrol in the car, and one of a receipt for £30. I have checked my bank and I was at that petrol station on the day and have a payment for £7 taken from my card.

How is there a receipt if it wasn't paid?

If there is a receipt, then there will be part card number. Does that match OP's?

Car_54

OP, your employer can give your details. They can't say you were drivingt.

The garage have a photo of the driver, but they don't know it was you, unless you tell them.

tyco99

there is a receipt for £30 that shows drive off, this is what they are claiming is the evidence I didn't pay.

Mildly_Miffed

tyco99 said:

there is a receipt for £30 that shows drive off, this is what they are claiming is the evidence I didn't pay.

...combined with photos showing somebody who looks a lot like you filling a car with that registration at that pump number at the same time.

You also admit that you have a card transaction that shows just £7 of purchase at the same place on the same date.

It's fairly obvious what most likely happened. You filled the car. Went into the shop, and bought £7 of stuff - then paid for the stuff but forgot the fuel.

Why has it taken this long? I bet the registered keeper of the car wasn't your employer. I bet it was a lease company, perhaps a third company - either linked to upstream finance, or to the importer of the car. Any initial correspondence would have been sent to them. It's entirely feasible that it's only now that the links in the chain have come back to your employer.

The debt is valid, as it's under six years.
The evidence is circumstantial but would likely stand up if they took your employer to court. That would cost your employer far more anyway than just paying it, so they will almost certainly just do so.

The question of whether they chase you for some or any of it is an employment matter. What does your contract say about liability for debts incurred by the company through your actions?

DullGreyGuy

born_again said:

HillStreetBlues said:

tyco99 said:

  They sent 3 pictures: 1 of my car at the pump, one of me putting petrol in the car, and one of a receipt for £30. I have checked my bank and I was at that petrol station on the day and have a payment for £7 taken from my card.

How is there a receipt if it wasn't paid?

If there is a receipt, then there will be part card number. Does that match OP's?

Its a till receipt rather than card receipt because its unpaid; tills can print a receipt before its paid, thats how restaurants give you the receipt/bill/check before then asking you to pay the amount. 

tyco99

My employer has confirmed they bought the car new in 2018 so they have always been the owner and registered keeper. The company have never moved and have been in there current location for over 20 years. All mail in is logged and there is no record of any letters prior to this from Shell, Forecourt Eye or Trace in relation to my company car. there are other correspondence ie speeding ticket and a parking notice between 2018 and 2022 so they would show that any correspondence if sent should have come through.

Due to the value of the request ie £150 for £30 worth of fuel and it being over 4 yeas old. My employer has said if a letter was sent prior to the one we have just received and not been processed they would pay the fine for me as it would be there fault it was not passed on an delt with. 

Trace have confirmed they have no record of any other letters being sent 

When questioned about the charge and the time its taken to make contact they have written "We have to advise that the PCN and its associated processes are in line with industry standards and are compliant with our clients accredited trade association"

with my limited knowledge I'm confused about them calling it a PCN 

Car_54

Mildly_Miffed said:

tyco99 said:

there is a receipt for £30 that shows drive off, this is what they are claiming is the evidence I didn't pay.

...combined with photos showing somebody who looks a lot like you filling a car with that registration at that pump number at the same time.

But ... the debt collector has no idea what the OP looks like.

DullGreyGuy

Car_54 said:

Mildly_Miffed said:

tyco99 said:

there is a receipt for £30 that shows drive off, this is what they are claiming is the evidence I didn't pay.

...combined with photos showing somebody who looks a lot like you filling a car with that registration at that pump number at the same time.

But ... the debt collector has no idea what the OP looks like.

But the OP does and they said it looks like them. 

Making false statement that it doesnt look like you then falls apart when it goes to court and risks the punishment of the judge in costs awarded etc. 

born_again

DullGreyGuy said:

born_again said:

HillStreetBlues said:

tyco99 said:

  They sent 3 pictures: 1 of my car at the pump, one of me putting petrol in the car, and one of a receipt for £30. I have checked my bank and I was at that petrol station on the day and have a payment for £7 taken from my card.

How is there a receipt if it wasn't paid?

If there is a receipt, then there will be part card number. Does that match OP's?

Its a till receipt rather than card receipt because its unpaid; tills can print a receipt before its paid, thats how restaurants give you the receipt/bill/check before then asking you to pay the amount. 

I can see that now we have a picture. OP did not make it clear that the receipt said "Drive Off" 👍

Car_54

DullGreyGuy said:

Car_54 said:

Mildly_Miffed said:

tyco99 said:

there is a receipt for £30 that shows drive off, this is what they are claiming is the evidence I didn't pay.

...combined with photos showing somebody who looks a lot like you filling a car with that registration at that pump number at the same time.

But ... the debt collector has no idea what the OP looks like.

But the OP does and they said it looks like them. 

Making false statement that it doesnt look like you then falls apart when it goes to court and risks the punishment of the judge in costs awarded etc. 

The OP doesn't need to make a statement on the subject, false or otherwise..

The onus is on the debt collector to prove it was him. Or indeed her, or them.