Neighbours need to put scaffolding in my garden

WIAWSNB

And if the neighbour needs access, they can take out a court order.
All great for reducing unpleasantness and stress.

thegreenone

WIAWSNB said:

And if the neighbour needs access, they can take out a court order.
All great for reducing unpleasantness and stress.

I can't believe any court would be interested this. 

Beeblebr0x

I don't know why people have the gall to draw up plans that involve trampling on their neighbour's land.

WIAWSNB

thegreenone said:

WIAWSNB said:

And if the neighbour needs access, they can take out a court order.
All great for reducing unpleasantness and stress.

I can't believe any court would be interested this. 

I understand it is the standard process you'd need to go through to obligate a neighbour to allow access for things like repair and maintenance, if there is no reasonable alternative.
Most/all deeds include this provision, but if your neighb says, 'non', then a court order should oblige them.
I don't know if it also applies to building extensions, tho'.
To me it would come down to whether access is actually required - how essential, any alternatives, stuff like that.
Folk should try and keep scaffolding and access within their own borders if possible, even it it's slightly more complex and costly that way. But, if there is no reasonable alternative, then best to do the right thing and allow it.

Beeblebr0x

mjm3346 said:

So at the moment it involves a bit of "waste" ground - absolutely you can refuse but if I was your neighbour I would make your life a living hell and apart from anything else that would potentially scupper your chances of a decent price if you tried to sell.

That works both ways if the neighbour decides to move, as they will have to declare the spat.

Boohoo

WIAWSNB said:

thegreenone said:

WIAWSNB said:

And if the neighbour needs access, they can take out a court order.
All great for reducing unpleasantness and stress.

I can't believe any court would be interested this. 

I understand it is the standard process you'd need to go through to obligate a neighbour to allow access for things like repair and maintenance, if there is no reasonable alternative.
Most/all deeds include this provision, but if your neighb says, 'non', then a court order should oblige them.
I don't know if it also applies to building extensions, tho'.
To me it would come down to whether access is actually required - how essential, any alternatives, stuff like that.
Folk should try and keep scaffolding and access within their own borders if possible, even it it's slightly more complex and costly that way. But, if there is no reasonable alternative, then best to do the right thing and allow it.

I did ask the OP if they could put up the plans/planning application so we could get an idea of the work involved.

OP said that neighbour is building a 2 storey extension on the furthest part of the house and can't see why they need access to her garden.

If it's a side extension then I can't see why scaffolding is needed in her garden but maybe they are doing the fascia, soffits and guttering for the whole house.

A copy of the plans may help us but then if the neighbour is scaffolding the whole house that could mean they are doing something in the attic.

WIAWSNB

Boohoo said:

WIAWSNB said:

thegreenone said:

WIAWSNB said:

And if the neighbour needs access, they can take out a court order.
All great for reducing unpleasantness and stress.

I can't believe any court would be interested this. 

I understand it is the standard process you'd need to go through to obligate a neighbour to allow access for things like repair and maintenance, if there is no reasonable alternative.
Most/all deeds include this provision, but if your neighb says, 'non', then a court order should oblige them.
I don't know if it also applies to building extensions, tho'.
To me it would come down to whether access is actually required - how essential, any alternatives, stuff like that.
Folk should try and keep scaffolding and access within their own borders if possible, even it it's slightly more complex and costly that way. But, if there is no reasonable alternative, then best to do the right thing and allow it.

I did ask the OP if they could put up the plans/planning application so we could get an idea of the work involved.

OP said that neighbour is building a 2 storey extension on the furthest part of the house and can't see why they need access to her garden.

If it's a side extension then I can't see why scaffolding is needed in her garden but maybe they are doing the fascia, soffits and guttering for the whole house.

A copy of the plans may help us but then if the neighbour is scaffolding the whole house that could mean they are doing something in the attic.

Absolutely - we haven't been given that detail.
The 'only two weeks' bit is curious, and clearly cannot refer to a 2 storey extension! Hence me wondering if, as part of this extension, they are perhaps recovering the rest of their roof, or replacing the stuff you've mentioned. In which case, two weeks ought to do it.
It does seem as tho' the OP is in a difficult part of her life at the moment, and is understandably less patient and tolerant of other things. But, allowing the neighbour access, provided they are being honest about the likely duration, is the right thing to do. And every 'right thing' should actually feel quite good.

IvyFlood

So I got this message from him over the weekend;

"Sorry to keep pushing but we need an answer  yes or no so that we know how we're going to proceed.

I understand your concerns and want to mitigate them as much as is humanly possible:

In summary,

We've confirmed we will 100% cover any costs coming from any damage which is highly unlikely

We have a two week timescale starting when the roof materials are delivered on Wednesday 18th June

I will have this small section of scaffolding removed as soon as is feasible, at the earliest opportunity

It won't block access to your tap and you'll still be able to access that part of the garden for tidying etc

No waste to be dropped into your garden the builders will be aware

Our builder has offered to speak to you to address any concerns, offer still open

On a personal note the impact on us if the work comes to a stop will be massive. Extra costs will be incurred that we'll need to cover and we have very little headroom for this. Our existing roof is also leaking so this work is urgent as that can't be fixed until the extension roof is also addressed. The extension will also be exposed to the elements for an longer period of time which could cause damage to the work so far

Once again sorry for the inconvenience and timing of all this, certainly didn't plan it that way"

...I find the tone of this very manipulative, piling on the pressure and emotional blackmail. Their financial constraints are not my responsibility. I would have thought most sensible people put at least 20% contingency into such a build. A two story extension costs what 120K? What's a couple 1-2k for cantilevered scaffolding? The 2 weeks has also now changed to 'as soon as feasible'. Plus its nothing to do with the builder - its the scaffolders. He can't promise me anything as its not in his control. I also feel they are very stupid to order building materials to be delivered this Wednesday without my permission. 

I've not said but my husband was violent and was arrested and on bail so I have a court case to look forward to whilst single parenting our 16 month old son. I've not told my neighbours the full extent only that we separated, I wouldn't want to put my personal life on their shoulders but they seem happy to do it to me! But I really do not have the headspace to deal with it if it drags on longer than 2 weeks, which it will. My garden is my sanctuary at the moment!

We/I've never got on with them despite trying. They always seemed very unfriendly and unapproachable. Now suddenly they want something. Even before all this I wouldn't even consider asking them for a favour as we just don't have that sort of relationship so I don't think there'll be any love lost.

Also, regarding my outside tap, I do need full access to it to get myself right round and in front of it - I couldn't do this with poles in the way which there will be as its a tight corner. I'll try and share some pictures later...

MeteredOut

I'm not sure he's intending to be manpulative, but simply that he's frustrated and simply wants a yes or no answer.

Boohoo

IvyFlood said:

So I got this message from him over the weekend;

"Sorry to keep pushing but we need an answer  yes or no so that we know how we're going to proceed.

I understand your concerns and want to mitigate them as much as is humanly possible:

In summary,

We've confirmed we will 100% cover any costs coming from any damage which is highly unlikely

We have a two week timescale starting when the roof materials are delivered on Wednesday 18th June

I will have this small section of scaffolding removed as soon as is feasible, at the earliest opportunity

It won't block access to your tap and you'll still be able to access that part of the garden for tidying etc

No waste to be dropped into your garden the builders will be aware

Our builder has offered to speak to you to address any concerns, offer still open

On a personal note the impact on us if the work comes to a stop will be massive. Extra costs will be incurred that we'll need to cover and we have very little headroom for this. Our existing roof is also leaking so this work is urgent as that can't be fixed until the extension roof is also addressed. The extension will also be exposed to the elements for an longer period of time which could cause damage to the work so far

Once again sorry for the inconvenience and timing of all this, certainly didn't plan it that way"

...I find the tone of this very manipulative, piling on the pressure and emotional blackmail. Their financial constraints are not my responsibility. I would have thought most sensible people put at least 20% contingency into such a build. A two story extension costs what 120K? What's a couple 1-2k for cantilevered scaffolding? The 2 weeks has also now changed to 'as soon as feasible'. Plus its nothing to do with the builder - its the scaffolders. He can't promise me anything as its not in his control. I also feel they are very stupid to order building materials to be delivered this Wednesday without my permission. 

I've not said but my husband was violent and was arrested and on bail so I have a court case to look forward to whilst single parenting our 16 month old son. I've not told my neighbours the full extent only that we separated, I wouldn't want to put my personal life on their shoulders but they seem happy to do it to me! But I really do not have the headspace to deal with it if it drags on longer than 2 weeks, which it will. My garden is my sanctuary at the moment!

We/I've never got on with them despite trying. They always seemed very unfriendly and unapproachable. Now suddenly they want something. Even before all this I wouldn't even consider asking them for a favour as we just don't have that sort of relationship so I don't think there'll be any love lost.

Also, regarding my outside tap, I do need full access to it to get myself right round and in front of it - I couldn't do this with poles in the way which there will be as its a tight corner. I'll try and share some pictures later...

So not a 2 storey extension as 1st mentioned .

Others and myself said there's more to this if they need to put scaffolding in your garden and now we know what. That was why I asked if you could put the planning application drawings on here to see.

I would be very surprised if the the re roofing takes 14 days from scaffolding going up and the roof works done and taken down again.