Just had a Howdens quote...

valmiki

Mother in Law having a new kitchen fitted - it's a tiny walk-in kitchen approx 2m x 2m

This was the original "estimate" - 

ACS1412 Glass Splashback 595mm x 705mm

CRD510N Clerk Gls Rd Grn 200 CC PreFit Pull-Out Base White Cab F

CRD5119 Clerk Gls Rd Grn 150 CC Pull-Out Base White Cab F

CRD517F Clerk Gls Rd Grn 800 CC 3 Dwr Base White Cab F

CRD5231 Clerk Gls Rd Grn 600 CC HiLine Base White Cab F

CRD5341 Clerk Gls Rd Grn 1000 CC HiLine Cnr Base White Cab F

CRD5369 Clerk Gls Rd Grn 931 CC HiLine Cnr Shelf Service Void F

Base White Cab

CRD5421 Clerk Gls Rd Grn 500 CC Full Height Wall White Cab F

CRD5431 Clerk Gls Rd Grn 600 CC Full Height Wall White Cab F

CRD5462 Clerk Gls Rd Grn 631 CC Full Height Cnr Wall White Cab F

CRD560G Clerk Gls Rd Grn 600 Built Under Oven Housing Base - F

Low Shelf White Cab

CRD591A Clerk Gls Rd Grn Cornice/Pelmet Square Profile 2.4m F

CRD5924 Clerk Gls Rd Grn Continuous Plinth 2.75m F

CRD5933 Clerk Gls Rd Grn 910 Base Decor End F

CRD5944 Clerk Gls Rd Grn 752 Full Height Wall Decor End F

CRD5958 Clerk Gls Rd Grn 2130 Twr Decor End F

CRD5991 Clerk Gls Rd Grn Edging Pack F

CRD599B Clerk Gls Rd Grn Kitchen Door Care Kit

FRT2253 Clerk Gls Rd Grn 600 Freezer Door F

GIR0041 Zipbolt Ultra Slim Connecting Bolt for 12.5mm Worktops

(Pack of 3)

HJA2908 Carbon Filter for LAM2410 and LAM2411

HKC0055 110 Degree CC Hinge Pack

HYH0992 Moulded Anthracite Cutlery Tray 800mm

LMP9320 Lamona Standard Fan Oven, 4 Burner Gas Hob, Chimney

Extractor S/Steel, S/Steel, S/Steel

PLU2002 Plumbing Kit for 1.5 and 2.0 Bowl Sinks with 1 x

Appliance Trap

RKC0600 800/1000 Base Blanking Panel F

RKC0600 800/1000 Base Blanking Panel F

SNK9850 Lamona Easton S/Steel 1.5 Bowl Sink and Waste RH

TAP8336 Brushed Finox Alvo Single Level Pull-Out Tap

WHT0001 White Compact Laminate Fitting Kit

WTC9389 Light Grey Backboard Sealer Strip (Pack of 2)

WTP2860 Glacier Marble Compact Laminate Worktop 3m 12mm F

WTP2897 Glacier Marble Backboard 3000mm x 600mm F

WTP2898 Glacier Marble Backboard 1000mm x 750mm F

ZZD39 Delivery

Total Goods 5969.20

VAT 1193.84

Estimate Total 7163.04

My wife rang them earlier today and they have agreed to reduce the price to £5,900 but will take out the sink and the tap, and - they say - prices are going up this weekend.

My first instinct is that this is still too expensive and I'd like to get quotes elsewhere (Selco would be my first port of call).

Can I assume that the "prices going up this weekend" is just a ploy to get the sale?

Thank you!

MeteredOut

"prices going up this weekend" would immediately make me walk away.

Did they mean list price will have gone up, or the £5900 offer will be withdrawn?

valmiki

MeteredOut said:

"prices going up this weekend" would immediately make me walk away.

Did they mean list price will have gone up, or the £5900 offer will be withdrawn?

Exactly! I hate the strong-arm tactics, it's a real turn off.

Not sure on either, waiting for my wife to get home to get the details.

MysteryMe

Could be viewed as a contravention  7 of schedule 20 - Schedule 20 Commercial practices which are in all circumstances considered unfair of the Digital Markets, Competition and Consumers Act 2024 

"Falsely stating that a product will only be available for a limited time, or that it will only be available on particular terms for a limited time, in order to elicit an immediate decision and deprive consumers of sufficient opportunity or time to make an informed choice."

This lack of transparency and "fluid" pricing is something they have been criticized for widely.  Enough of the it's £20k but we can drop it down to £10k, It's £20k if you deal with Tom but £10k if you deal with Harry or it's £20k but we can price match Magnet and do it for £10k nonsense.  Your price is basically £10k so stop trying to mug people off. You are a major national company not some shady back street outfit.  

SVaz

Have you compared like for like on DiY kitchens?
That will indicate if the price is ok. 

We sourced our own sink , tap and hob and saved £1k on the quoted price of our kitchen.

£6k seems expensive for a small kitchen but I imagine prices have gone up a lot in the 8 years since we had ours. 

EssexExile

I haven't gone through your list to compare with mine, but my kitchen is about 5m x 3m and Howdens quoted about £7000 and said they will price match a quote from DIY Kitchens, which was a little less but not much. I got it elsewhere for about £6000. "Elsewhere" have been a lot of hassle (wrong stuff delivered, take ages to get it right) but it will be fine when it's finished.

valmiki

Thanks everyone.

Wife has come home, she stopped at Wrens on the way and is going to get a price from them tomorrow based on the plans we had so at least we're going to have something to compare to! 

Doozergirl

valmiki said:

Thanks everyone.

Wife has come home, she stopped at Wrens on the way and is going to get a price from them tomorrow based on the plans we had so at least we're going to have something to compare to! 

I wouldn't use Wren as a comparison for anything.  

FreeBear

Don't rate Lamona appliances. From what I've seen of them, they look like rebadged CDA appliances (which are pretty crap in their own right).

Don't see any mention of a ducting kit for the extractor hood. It should be vented to the outside to be compliant with current Building Regs. But with filters, I'm guessing they have specified a recirculating model.

In a 2x2m kitchen, that number of full height units & wall cupboards is going to make for a very cramped space. My kitchen is just 2.4m wide, but a little longer at 3.4m. No wall cupboards or full height units, and with a light colour on the walls, the space looks quite a lot larger. OK, storage is an issue, but it helps to discourage hording of tat'n'crap.

Alfrescodave

Doozergirl said:

valmiki said:

Thanks everyone.

Wife has come home, she stopped at Wrens on the way and is going to get a price from them tomorrow based on the plans we had so at least we're going to have something to compare to! 

I wouldn't use Wren as a comparison for anything.  

OP do heed these wise words of warning and research wren kitchens thoroughly.

Andy_L

I thought Howdens didn't deal directly with consumers but only did B2B sales.

Is this a quote from Howdens or from the installer?