What’s wrong with this property

Tabieth

GDB2222 said:

Tabieth said:

ReadySteadyPop said:

strawb_shortcake said:

ReadySteadyPop said:

strawb_shortcake said:

ReadySteadyPop said:

Herzlos said:

Convenience of stuff is a huge deal and most of the reason property in cities is worth more. 

Being able to walk to a shop is much better than being able to order online. 

I would disagree, in what way do you think it is "better"? I have at least five major supermarkets/stores nearby, one is 24 hours plus all the small shops that sell booze, snacks etc and still find online more convenient One reason is that people`s stress levels are off the dial nowadays (is it the "debt for everything" life that many have adopted?) even a few minutes in a busy shop now is unpleasant (IMO) Trust me, having a Waitrose nearby isn`t going to get someone a silly price for their flat, a lender won`t care too much about that in this climate.

One of our strongest factors in moving is to have more shops and amenities in walking distance, I don't much care for online shopping, I want that human interaction.

In a shop full of self-service points and people glued to their phones you won`t get that human interaction, more chance of a meaningful chat with the delivery driver to be honest.  

Perhaps you should spend more time outside than behind a screen and open that mind of yours. The areas I'm looking at have small independent shops, bakers, fruit and veg shop, butchers as well as cafes and pubs, as well as other community endeavours
It's not all about groceries and buying tat of amazon and temu.

Many areas in nearly all cities have these things, the discussion was about being near a Waitrose as a major selling point, in London it clearly isn`t a major selling point because there are loads of unsold flats surrounded by shops, my further point was that "being near shops" has been much less of an issue in the last nearly 30 years because of the internet, and I find the fact that we are on the internet actually debating whether someone would overpay for a very basic quickly thrown up flat because it is near a Waitrose mildly bizarre.......

Yes, many areas have these things and many don’t. I live in a city and my area has independent shops, fishmongers, artisan bakeries, etc.. Other parts of the city don’t. Having access to these things is importantly to me which is why I bought in a “good” area, rather than a bigger property in a less desirable area. Its location, location, location. And I suspect (but don’t know) that Waitrose was being used as a bit of a short hand for all of that in many of the replies. It’s not being near shops per se (something that’s true in many areas), it’s being near “nice” shops. (Of course that doesn’t mean all properties in a nice area are good buys, that would be silly and over simplistic. Just that the one thing that can’t be changes about a property is its location). 

Saying all that, I’m very online and I do online supermarket shopping regularly. But being able to nip around the corner to buy something I’ve forgotten is importantly to me.  It’s one reason I’d never live in a very rural area. 

Just to clarify, the proximity to Waitrose of a different flat had been raised earlier on in this thread. I just noted that the Tramworks development is near Waitrose as a light-hearted comment. It seems to have taken on an awful lot of significance since then. 

Yeah, I agree. I wouldn’t buy a property that didn’t suit my needs or was over-priced just because it was near a Waitrose. And I don’t think anyone is saying that they would. It’s all a bit of a straw man argument really!

ReadySteadyPop

Tabieth said:

GDB2222 said:

Tabieth said:

ReadySteadyPop said:

strawb_shortcake said:

ReadySteadyPop said:

strawb_shortcake said:

ReadySteadyPop said:

Herzlos said:

Convenience of stuff is a huge deal and most of the reason property in cities is worth more. 

Being able to walk to a shop is much better than being able to order online. 

I would disagree, in what way do you think it is "better"? I have at least five major supermarkets/stores nearby, one is 24 hours plus all the small shops that sell booze, snacks etc and still find online more convenient One reason is that people`s stress levels are off the dial nowadays (is it the "debt for everything" life that many have adopted?) even a few minutes in a busy shop now is unpleasant (IMO) Trust me, having a Waitrose nearby isn`t going to get someone a silly price for their flat, a lender won`t care too much about that in this climate.

One of our strongest factors in moving is to have more shops and amenities in walking distance, I don't much care for online shopping, I want that human interaction.

In a shop full of self-service points and people glued to their phones you won`t get that human interaction, more chance of a meaningful chat with the delivery driver to be honest.  

Perhaps you should spend more time outside than behind a screen and open that mind of yours. The areas I'm looking at have small independent shops, bakers, fruit and veg shop, butchers as well as cafes and pubs, as well as other community endeavours
It's not all about groceries and buying tat of amazon and temu.

Many areas in nearly all cities have these things, the discussion was about being near a Waitrose as a major selling point, in London it clearly isn`t a major selling point because there are loads of unsold flats surrounded by shops, my further point was that "being near shops" has been much less of an issue in the last nearly 30 years because of the internet, and I find the fact that we are on the internet actually debating whether someone would overpay for a very basic quickly thrown up flat because it is near a Waitrose mildly bizarre.......

Yes, many areas have these things and many don’t. I live in a city and my area has independent shops, fishmongers, artisan bakeries, etc.. Other parts of the city don’t. Having access to these things is importantly to me which is why I bought in a “good” area, rather than a bigger property in a less desirable area. Its location, location, location. And I suspect (but don’t know) that Waitrose was being used as a bit of a short hand for all of that in many of the replies. It’s not being near shops per se (something that’s true in many areas), it’s being near “nice” shops. (Of course that doesn’t mean all properties in a nice area are good buys, that would be silly and over simplistic. Just that the one thing that can’t be changes about a property is its location). 

Saying all that, I’m very online and I do online supermarket shopping regularly. But being able to nip around the corner to buy something I’ve forgotten is importantly to me.  It’s one reason I’d never live in a very rural area. 

Just to clarify, the proximity to Waitrose of a different flat had been raised earlier on in this thread. I just noted that the Tramworks development is near Waitrose as a light-hearted comment. It seems to have taken on an awful lot of significance since then. 

Yeah, I agree. I wouldn’t buy a property that didn’t suit my needs or was over-priced just because it was near a Waitrose. And I don’t think anyone is saying that they would. It’s all a bit of a straw man argument really!

The Waitrose was flagged as a "selling point" which is obviously not the case in London or any city in the internet age.

strawb_shortcake

I always thought the "Waitrose aspect" was more to do with the area, certainly in my wider area all the places with a Waitrose in walking distance have a location premium compared to perhaps the areas with a Lidl or Aldi. Not because of the Waitrose, but they are considered more middle class

Tabieth

ReadySteadyPop said:

Tabieth said:

GDB2222 said:

Tabieth said:

ReadySteadyPop said:

strawb_shortcake said:

ReadySteadyPop said:

strawb_shortcake said:

ReadySteadyPop said:

Herzlos said:

Convenience of stuff is a huge deal and most of the reason property in cities is worth more. 

Being able to walk to a shop is much better than being able to order online. 

I would disagree, in what way do you think it is "better"? I have at least five major supermarkets/stores nearby, one is 24 hours plus all the small shops that sell booze, snacks etc and still find online more convenient One reason is that people`s stress levels are off the dial nowadays (is it the "debt for everything" life that many have adopted?) even a few minutes in a busy shop now is unpleasant (IMO) Trust me, having a Waitrose nearby isn`t going to get someone a silly price for their flat, a lender won`t care too much about that in this climate.

One of our strongest factors in moving is to have more shops and amenities in walking distance, I don't much care for online shopping, I want that human interaction.

In a shop full of self-service points and people glued to their phones you won`t get that human interaction, more chance of a meaningful chat with the delivery driver to be honest.  

Perhaps you should spend more time outside than behind a screen and open that mind of yours. The areas I'm looking at have small independent shops, bakers, fruit and veg shop, butchers as well as cafes and pubs, as well as other community endeavours
It's not all about groceries and buying tat of amazon and temu.

Many areas in nearly all cities have these things, the discussion was about being near a Waitrose as a major selling point, in London it clearly isn`t a major selling point because there are loads of unsold flats surrounded by shops, my further point was that "being near shops" has been much less of an issue in the last nearly 30 years because of the internet, and I find the fact that we are on the internet actually debating whether someone would overpay for a very basic quickly thrown up flat because it is near a Waitrose mildly bizarre.......

Yes, many areas have these things and many don’t. I live in a city and my area has independent shops, fishmongers, artisan bakeries, etc.. Other parts of the city don’t. Having access to these things is importantly to me which is why I bought in a “good” area, rather than a bigger property in a less desirable area. Its location, location, location. And I suspect (but don’t know) that Waitrose was being used as a bit of a short hand for all of that in many of the replies. It’s not being near shops per se (something that’s true in many areas), it’s being near “nice” shops. (Of course that doesn’t mean all properties in a nice area are good buys, that would be silly and over simplistic. Just that the one thing that can’t be changes about a property is its location). 

Saying all that, I’m very online and I do online supermarket shopping regularly. But being able to nip around the corner to buy something I’ve forgotten is importantly to me.  It’s one reason I’d never live in a very rural area. 

Just to clarify, the proximity to Waitrose of a different flat had been raised earlier on in this thread. I just noted that the Tramworks development is near Waitrose as a light-hearted comment. It seems to have taken on an awful lot of significance since then. 

Yeah, I agree. I wouldn’t buy a property that didn’t suit my needs or was over-priced just because it was near a Waitrose. And I don’t think anyone is saying that they would. It’s all a bit of a straw man argument really!

The Waitrose was flagged as a "selling point" which is obviously not the case in London or any city in the internet age.

It’s what Waitrose represents just as much as it’s nice to be able to pop into it on the way home from work. Waitrose have stores in affulent areas. “Good” locations. Location is important. 

ReadySteadyPop

Tabieth said:

ReadySteadyPop said:

Tabieth said:

GDB2222 said:

Tabieth said:

ReadySteadyPop said:

strawb_shortcake said:

ReadySteadyPop said:

strawb_shortcake said:

ReadySteadyPop said:

Herzlos said:

Convenience of stuff is a huge deal and most of the reason property in cities is worth more. 

Being able to walk to a shop is much better than being able to order online. 

I would disagree, in what way do you think it is "better"? I have at least five major supermarkets/stores nearby, one is 24 hours plus all the small shops that sell booze, snacks etc and still find online more convenient One reason is that people`s stress levels are off the dial nowadays (is it the "debt for everything" life that many have adopted?) even a few minutes in a busy shop now is unpleasant (IMO) Trust me, having a Waitrose nearby isn`t going to get someone a silly price for their flat, a lender won`t care too much about that in this climate.

One of our strongest factors in moving is to have more shops and amenities in walking distance, I don't much care for online shopping, I want that human interaction.

In a shop full of self-service points and people glued to their phones you won`t get that human interaction, more chance of a meaningful chat with the delivery driver to be honest.  

Perhaps you should spend more time outside than behind a screen and open that mind of yours. The areas I'm looking at have small independent shops, bakers, fruit and veg shop, butchers as well as cafes and pubs, as well as other community endeavours
It's not all about groceries and buying tat of amazon and temu.

Many areas in nearly all cities have these things, the discussion was about being near a Waitrose as a major selling point, in London it clearly isn`t a major selling point because there are loads of unsold flats surrounded by shops, my further point was that "being near shops" has been much less of an issue in the last nearly 30 years because of the internet, and I find the fact that we are on the internet actually debating whether someone would overpay for a very basic quickly thrown up flat because it is near a Waitrose mildly bizarre.......

Yes, many areas have these things and many don’t. I live in a city and my area has independent shops, fishmongers, artisan bakeries, etc.. Other parts of the city don’t. Having access to these things is importantly to me which is why I bought in a “good” area, rather than a bigger property in a less desirable area. Its location, location, location. And I suspect (but don’t know) that Waitrose was being used as a bit of a short hand for all of that in many of the replies. It’s not being near shops per se (something that’s true in many areas), it’s being near “nice” shops. (Of course that doesn’t mean all properties in a nice area are good buys, that would be silly and over simplistic. Just that the one thing that can’t be changes about a property is its location). 

Saying all that, I’m very online and I do online supermarket shopping regularly. But being able to nip around the corner to buy something I’ve forgotten is importantly to me.  It’s one reason I’d never live in a very rural area. 

Just to clarify, the proximity to Waitrose of a different flat had been raised earlier on in this thread. I just noted that the Tramworks development is near Waitrose as a light-hearted comment. It seems to have taken on an awful lot of significance since then. 

Yeah, I agree. I wouldn’t buy a property that didn’t suit my needs or was over-priced just because it was near a Waitrose. And I don’t think anyone is saying that they would. It’s all a bit of a straw man argument really!

The Waitrose was flagged as a "selling point" which is obviously not the case in London or any city in the internet age.

It’s what Waitrose represents just as much as it’s nice to be able to pop into it on the way home from work. Waitrose have stores in affulent areas. “Good” locations. Location is important. 

Not the same in London though as it would be in Morningside or a posh town/village near Manchester, they are just scattered about to capture footfall, because as another poster said people will pop in on their way to/from work, they don`t need to live nearby, "posh" areas in London are often right next to to much less desirable places and if you keep over-building desirable places soon become undesirable.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/2-000-residents-object-to-enormous-north-london-housing-scheme-b1232212.html

I have never understood the fuss about Waitrose, it is really nothing special in my opinion, M&S is the same, used to be way better quality, now not so much but still with high prices. I still say that a Waitrose nearby will do absolutely nothing for people trying to sell these overpriced boxes.

Tabieth

ReadySteadyPop said:

Tabieth said:

ReadySteadyPop said:

Tabieth said:

GDB2222 said:

Tabieth said:

ReadySteadyPop said:

strawb_shortcake said:

ReadySteadyPop said:

strawb_shortcake said:

ReadySteadyPop said:

Herzlos said:

Convenience of stuff is a huge deal and most of the reason property in cities is worth more. 

Being able to walk to a shop is much better than being able to order online. 

I would disagree, in what way do you think it is "better"? I have at least five major supermarkets/stores nearby, one is 24 hours plus all the small shops that sell booze, snacks etc and still find online more convenient One reason is that people`s stress levels are off the dial nowadays (is it the "debt for everything" life that many have adopted?) even a few minutes in a busy shop now is unpleasant (IMO) Trust me, having a Waitrose nearby isn`t going to get someone a silly price for their flat, a lender won`t care too much about that in this climate.

One of our strongest factors in moving is to have more shops and amenities in walking distance, I don't much care for online shopping, I want that human interaction.

In a shop full of self-service points and people glued to their phones you won`t get that human interaction, more chance of a meaningful chat with the delivery driver to be honest.  

Perhaps you should spend more time outside than behind a screen and open that mind of yours. The areas I'm looking at have small independent shops, bakers, fruit and veg shop, butchers as well as cafes and pubs, as well as other community endeavours
It's not all about groceries and buying tat of amazon and temu.

Many areas in nearly all cities have these things, the discussion was about being near a Waitrose as a major selling point, in London it clearly isn`t a major selling point because there are loads of unsold flats surrounded by shops, my further point was that "being near shops" has been much less of an issue in the last nearly 30 years because of the internet, and I find the fact that we are on the internet actually debating whether someone would overpay for a very basic quickly thrown up flat because it is near a Waitrose mildly bizarre.......

Yes, many areas have these things and many don’t. I live in a city and my area has independent shops, fishmongers, artisan bakeries, etc.. Other parts of the city don’t. Having access to these things is importantly to me which is why I bought in a “good” area, rather than a bigger property in a less desirable area. Its location, location, location. And I suspect (but don’t know) that Waitrose was being used as a bit of a short hand for all of that in many of the replies. It’s not being near shops per se (something that’s true in many areas), it’s being near “nice” shops. (Of course that doesn’t mean all properties in a nice area are good buys, that would be silly and over simplistic. Just that the one thing that can’t be changes about a property is its location). 

Saying all that, I’m very online and I do online supermarket shopping regularly. But being able to nip around the corner to buy something I’ve forgotten is importantly to me.  It’s one reason I’d never live in a very rural area. 

Just to clarify, the proximity to Waitrose of a different flat had been raised earlier on in this thread. I just noted that the Tramworks development is near Waitrose as a light-hearted comment. It seems to have taken on an awful lot of significance since then. 

Yeah, I agree. I wouldn’t buy a property that didn’t suit my needs or was over-priced just because it was near a Waitrose. And I don’t think anyone is saying that they would. It’s all a bit of a straw man argument really!

The Waitrose was flagged as a "selling point" which is obviously not the case in London or any city in the internet age.

It’s what Waitrose represents just as much as it’s nice to be able to pop into it on the way home from work. Waitrose have stores in affulent areas. “Good” locations. Location is important. 

Not the same in London though as it would be in Morningside or a posh town/village near Manchester, they are just scattered about to capture footfall, because as another poster said people will pop in on their way to/from work, they don`t need to live nearby, "posh" areas in London are often right next to to much less desirable places and if you keep over-building desirable places soon become undesirable.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/2-000-residents-object-to-enormous-north-london-housing-scheme-b1232212.html

I have never understood the fuss about Waitrose, it is really nothing special in my opinion, M&S is the same, used to be way better quality, now not so much but still with high prices. I still say that a Waitrose nearby will do absolutely nothing for people trying to sell these overpriced boxes.

No one is arguing that having a Waitrose nearby will make it easy to sell an overpriced property. Just that it’s convenient and a marker of a good location (even in London where I lived for several years). 

When was the last time you bought a property?

ReadySteadyPop

Tabieth said:

ReadySteadyPop said:

Tabieth said:

ReadySteadyPop said:

Tabieth said:

GDB2222 said:

Tabieth said:

ReadySteadyPop said:

strawb_shortcake said:

ReadySteadyPop said:

strawb_shortcake said:

ReadySteadyPop said:

Herzlos said:

Convenience of stuff is a huge deal and most of the reason property in cities is worth more. 

Being able to walk to a shop is much better than being able to order online. 

I would disagree, in what way do you think it is "better"? I have at least five major supermarkets/stores nearby, one is 24 hours plus all the small shops that sell booze, snacks etc and still find online more convenient One reason is that people`s stress levels are off the dial nowadays (is it the "debt for everything" life that many have adopted?) even a few minutes in a busy shop now is unpleasant (IMO) Trust me, having a Waitrose nearby isn`t going to get someone a silly price for their flat, a lender won`t care too much about that in this climate.

One of our strongest factors in moving is to have more shops and amenities in walking distance, I don't much care for online shopping, I want that human interaction.

In a shop full of self-service points and people glued to their phones you won`t get that human interaction, more chance of a meaningful chat with the delivery driver to be honest.  

Perhaps you should spend more time outside than behind a screen and open that mind of yours. The areas I'm looking at have small independent shops, bakers, fruit and veg shop, butchers as well as cafes and pubs, as well as other community endeavours
It's not all about groceries and buying tat of amazon and temu.

Many areas in nearly all cities have these things, the discussion was about being near a Waitrose as a major selling point, in London it clearly isn`t a major selling point because there are loads of unsold flats surrounded by shops, my further point was that "being near shops" has been much less of an issue in the last nearly 30 years because of the internet, and I find the fact that we are on the internet actually debating whether someone would overpay for a very basic quickly thrown up flat because it is near a Waitrose mildly bizarre.......

Yes, many areas have these things and many don’t. I live in a city and my area has independent shops, fishmongers, artisan bakeries, etc.. Other parts of the city don’t. Having access to these things is importantly to me which is why I bought in a “good” area, rather than a bigger property in a less desirable area. Its location, location, location. And I suspect (but don’t know) that Waitrose was being used as a bit of a short hand for all of that in many of the replies. It’s not being near shops per se (something that’s true in many areas), it’s being near “nice” shops. (Of course that doesn’t mean all properties in a nice area are good buys, that would be silly and over simplistic. Just that the one thing that can’t be changes about a property is its location). 

Saying all that, I’m very online and I do online supermarket shopping regularly. But being able to nip around the corner to buy something I’ve forgotten is importantly to me.  It’s one reason I’d never live in a very rural area. 

Just to clarify, the proximity to Waitrose of a different flat had been raised earlier on in this thread. I just noted that the Tramworks development is near Waitrose as a light-hearted comment. It seems to have taken on an awful lot of significance since then. 

Yeah, I agree. I wouldn’t buy a property that didn’t suit my needs or was over-priced just because it was near a Waitrose. And I don’t think anyone is saying that they would. It’s all a bit of a straw man argument really!

The Waitrose was flagged as a "selling point" which is obviously not the case in London or any city in the internet age.

It’s what Waitrose represents just as much as it’s nice to be able to pop into it on the way home from work. Waitrose have stores in affulent areas. “Good” locations. Location is important. 

Not the same in London though as it would be in Morningside or a posh town/village near Manchester, they are just scattered about to capture footfall, because as another poster said people will pop in on their way to/from work, they don`t need to live nearby, "posh" areas in London are often right next to to much less desirable places and if you keep over-building desirable places soon become undesirable.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/2-000-residents-object-to-enormous-north-london-housing-scheme-b1232212.html

I have never understood the fuss about Waitrose, it is really nothing special in my opinion, M&S is the same, used to be way better quality, now not so much but still with high prices. I still say that a Waitrose nearby will do absolutely nothing for people trying to sell these overpriced boxes.

No one is arguing that having a Waitrose nearby will make it easy to sell an overpriced property. Just that it’s convenient and a marker of a good location (even in London where I lived for several years). 

When was the last time you bought a property?

This one isn`t a marker of a good location, it is in an area that is going to be a building site for years, will be over-built and has unhappy residents taking up petitions against the over-building, it fact if we have the financial crisis that many think is long overdue they probably will scrap most of the building plans because they won`t be able to sell them. Waitrose also do deliveries so you could live anywhere and still shop there.

Tabieth

ReadySteadyPop said:

Tabieth said:

ReadySteadyPop said:

Tabieth said:

ReadySteadyPop said:

Tabieth said:

GDB2222 said:

Tabieth said:

ReadySteadyPop said:

strawb_shortcake said:

ReadySteadyPop said:

strawb_shortcake said:

ReadySteadyPop said:

Herzlos said:

Convenience of stuff is a huge deal and most of the reason property in cities is worth more. 

Being able to walk to a shop is much better than being able to order online. 

I would disagree, in what way do you think it is "better"? I have at least five major supermarkets/stores nearby, one is 24 hours plus all the small shops that sell booze, snacks etc and still find online more convenient One reason is that people`s stress levels are off the dial nowadays (is it the "debt for everything" life that many have adopted?) even a few minutes in a busy shop now is unpleasant (IMO) Trust me, having a Waitrose nearby isn`t going to get someone a silly price for their flat, a lender won`t care too much about that in this climate.

One of our strongest factors in moving is to have more shops and amenities in walking distance, I don't much care for online shopping, I want that human interaction.

In a shop full of self-service points and people glued to their phones you won`t get that human interaction, more chance of a meaningful chat with the delivery driver to be honest.  

Perhaps you should spend more time outside than behind a screen and open that mind of yours. The areas I'm looking at have small independent shops, bakers, fruit and veg shop, butchers as well as cafes and pubs, as well as other community endeavours
It's not all about groceries and buying tat of amazon and temu.

Many areas in nearly all cities have these things, the discussion was about being near a Waitrose as a major selling point, in London it clearly isn`t a major selling point because there are loads of unsold flats surrounded by shops, my further point was that "being near shops" has been much less of an issue in the last nearly 30 years because of the internet, and I find the fact that we are on the internet actually debating whether someone would overpay for a very basic quickly thrown up flat because it is near a Waitrose mildly bizarre.......

Yes, many areas have these things and many don’t. I live in a city and my area has independent shops, fishmongers, artisan bakeries, etc.. Other parts of the city don’t. Having access to these things is importantly to me which is why I bought in a “good” area, rather than a bigger property in a less desirable area. Its location, location, location. And I suspect (but don’t know) that Waitrose was being used as a bit of a short hand for all of that in many of the replies. It’s not being near shops per se (something that’s true in many areas), it’s being near “nice” shops. (Of course that doesn’t mean all properties in a nice area are good buys, that would be silly and over simplistic. Just that the one thing that can’t be changes about a property is its location). 

Saying all that, I’m very online and I do online supermarket shopping regularly. But being able to nip around the corner to buy something I’ve forgotten is importantly to me.  It’s one reason I’d never live in a very rural area. 

Just to clarify, the proximity to Waitrose of a different flat had been raised earlier on in this thread. I just noted that the Tramworks development is near Waitrose as a light-hearted comment. It seems to have taken on an awful lot of significance since then. 

Yeah, I agree. I wouldn’t buy a property that didn’t suit my needs or was over-priced just because it was near a Waitrose. And I don’t think anyone is saying that they would. It’s all a bit of a straw man argument really!

The Waitrose was flagged as a "selling point" which is obviously not the case in London or any city in the internet age.

It’s what Waitrose represents just as much as it’s nice to be able to pop into it on the way home from work. Waitrose have stores in affulent areas. “Good” locations. Location is important. 

Not the same in London though as it would be in Morningside or a posh town/village near Manchester, they are just scattered about to capture footfall, because as another poster said people will pop in on their way to/from work, they don`t need to live nearby, "posh" areas in London are often right next to to much less desirable places and if you keep over-building desirable places soon become undesirable.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/2-000-residents-object-to-enormous-north-london-housing-scheme-b1232212.html

I have never understood the fuss about Waitrose, it is really nothing special in my opinion, M&S is the same, used to be way better quality, now not so much but still with high prices. I still say that a Waitrose nearby will do absolutely nothing for people trying to sell these overpriced boxes.

No one is arguing that having a Waitrose nearby will make it easy to sell an overpriced property. Just that it’s convenient and a marker of a good location (even in London where I lived for several years). 

When was the last time you bought a property?

This one isn`t a marker of a good location, it is in an area that is going to be a building site for years, will be over-built and has unhappy residents taking up petitions against the over-building, it fact if we have the financial crisis that many think is long overdue they probably will scrap most of the building plans because they won`t be able to sell them. Waitrose also do deliveries so you could live anywhere and still shop there.

I think everyone on this forum is aware that supermarkets do online deliveries. It’s hardly a new concept! 

And the “overdue” financial crisis?! How long have you been predicting this?

jimbog

ReadySteadyPop said:

Tabieth said:

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Tabieth said:

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Tabieth said:

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strawb_shortcake said:

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ReadySteadyPop said:

Herzlos said:

Convenience of stuff is a huge deal and most of the reason property in cities is worth more. 

Being able to walk to a shop is much better than being able to order online. 

I would disagree, in what way do you think it is "better"? I have at least five major supermarkets/stores nearby, one is 24 hours plus all the small shops that sell booze, snacks etc and still find online more convenient One reason is that people`s stress levels are off the dial nowadays (is it the "debt for everything" life that many have adopted?) even a few minutes in a busy shop now is unpleasant (IMO) Trust me, having a Waitrose nearby isn`t going to get someone a silly price for their flat, a lender won`t care too much about that in this climate.

One of our strongest factors in moving is to have more shops and amenities in walking distance, I don't much care for online shopping, I want that human interaction.

In a shop full of self-service points and people glued to their phones you won`t get that human interaction, more chance of a meaningful chat with the delivery driver to be honest.  

Perhaps you should spend more time outside than behind a screen and open that mind of yours. The areas I'm looking at have small independent shops, bakers, fruit and veg shop, butchers as well as cafes and pubs, as well as other community endeavours
It's not all about groceries and buying tat of amazon and temu.

Many areas in nearly all cities have these things, the discussion was about being near a Waitrose as a major selling point, in London it clearly isn`t a major selling point because there are loads of unsold flats surrounded by shops, my further point was that "being near shops" has been much less of an issue in the last nearly 30 years because of the internet, and I find the fact that we are on the internet actually debating whether someone would overpay for a very basic quickly thrown up flat because it is near a Waitrose mildly bizarre.......

Yes, many areas have these things and many don’t. I live in a city and my area has independent shops, fishmongers, artisan bakeries, etc.. Other parts of the city don’t. Having access to these things is importantly to me which is why I bought in a “good” area, rather than a bigger property in a less desirable area. Its location, location, location. And I suspect (but don’t know) that Waitrose was being used as a bit of a short hand for all of that in many of the replies. It’s not being near shops per se (something that’s true in many areas), it’s being near “nice” shops. (Of course that doesn’t mean all properties in a nice area are good buys, that would be silly and over simplistic. Just that the one thing that can’t be changes about a property is its location). 

Saying all that, I’m very online and I do online supermarket shopping regularly. But being able to nip around the corner to buy something I’ve forgotten is importantly to me.  It’s one reason I’d never live in a very rural area. 

Just to clarify, the proximity to Waitrose of a different flat had been raised earlier on in this thread. I just noted that the Tramworks development is near Waitrose as a light-hearted comment. It seems to have taken on an awful lot of significance since then. 

Yeah, I agree. I wouldn’t buy a property that didn’t suit my needs or was over-priced just because it was near a Waitrose. And I don’t think anyone is saying that they would. It’s all a bit of a straw man argument really!

The Waitrose was flagged as a "selling point" which is obviously not the case in London or any city in the internet age.

It’s what Waitrose represents just as much as it’s nice to be able to pop into it on the way home from work. Waitrose have stores in affulent areas. “Good” locations. Location is important. 

Not the same in London though as it would be in Morningside

I don’t believe there is a Waitrose near Meadowbank however property prices there continue to rise?

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jimbog said:

ReadySteadyPop said:

Tabieth said:

ReadySteadyPop said:

Tabieth said:

GDB2222 said:

Tabieth said:

ReadySteadyPop said:

strawb_shortcake said:

ReadySteadyPop said:

strawb_shortcake said:

ReadySteadyPop said:

Herzlos said:

Convenience of stuff is a huge deal and most of the reason property in cities is worth more. 

Being able to walk to a shop is much better than being able to order online. 

I would disagree, in what way do you think it is "better"? I have at least five major supermarkets/stores nearby, one is 24 hours plus all the small shops that sell booze, snacks etc and still find online more convenient One reason is that people`s stress levels are off the dial nowadays (is it the "debt for everything" life that many have adopted?) even a few minutes in a busy shop now is unpleasant (IMO) Trust me, having a Waitrose nearby isn`t going to get someone a silly price for their flat, a lender won`t care too much about that in this climate.

One of our strongest factors in moving is to have more shops and amenities in walking distance, I don't much care for online shopping, I want that human interaction.

In a shop full of self-service points and people glued to their phones you won`t get that human interaction, more chance of a meaningful chat with the delivery driver to be honest.  

Perhaps you should spend more time outside than behind a screen and open that mind of yours. The areas I'm looking at have small independent shops, bakers, fruit and veg shop, butchers as well as cafes and pubs, as well as other community endeavours
It's not all about groceries and buying tat of amazon and temu.

Many areas in nearly all cities have these things, the discussion was about being near a Waitrose as a major selling point, in London it clearly isn`t a major selling point because there are loads of unsold flats surrounded by shops, my further point was that "being near shops" has been much less of an issue in the last nearly 30 years because of the internet, and I find the fact that we are on the internet actually debating whether someone would overpay for a very basic quickly thrown up flat because it is near a Waitrose mildly bizarre.......

Yes, many areas have these things and many don’t. I live in a city and my area has independent shops, fishmongers, artisan bakeries, etc.. Other parts of the city don’t. Having access to these things is importantly to me which is why I bought in a “good” area, rather than a bigger property in a less desirable area. Its location, location, location. And I suspect (but don’t know) that Waitrose was being used as a bit of a short hand for all of that in many of the replies. It’s not being near shops per se (something that’s true in many areas), it’s being near “nice” shops. (Of course that doesn’t mean all properties in a nice area are good buys, that would be silly and over simplistic. Just that the one thing that can’t be changes about a property is its location). 

Saying all that, I’m very online and I do online supermarket shopping regularly. But being able to nip around the corner to buy something I’ve forgotten is importantly to me.  It’s one reason I’d never live in a very rural area. 

Just to clarify, the proximity to Waitrose of a different flat had been raised earlier on in this thread. I just noted that the Tramworks development is near Waitrose as a light-hearted comment. It seems to have taken on an awful lot of significance since then. 

Yeah, I agree. I wouldn’t buy a property that didn’t suit my needs or was over-priced just because it was near a Waitrose. And I don’t think anyone is saying that they would. It’s all a bit of a straw man argument really!

The Waitrose was flagged as a "selling point" which is obviously not the case in London or any city in the internet age.

It’s what Waitrose represents just as much as it’s nice to be able to pop into it on the way home from work. Waitrose have stores in affulent areas. “Good” locations. Location is important. 

Not the same in London though as it would be in Morningside

I don’t believe there is a Waitrose near Meadowbank however property prices there continue to rise?

This is basically your back garden at Meadowbank, they don`t need a Waitrose.