How to proceed without any details or reference from from Landowner

loopdaloopy

Thanks for all the brilliant resources related to carpark fines. I am trying to follow the steps outlined in the Newbies thread. However, I need advice around one element.

I did not receive the original parking fine (from NCP, apparently). I received notice of a fine from a debt collectors agency - without any specific detail about the nature of the transgression or any reference to the original PCN reference number (with NCP). Without this, I don't know how to dispute the original charge with the landowner, which I am certain is not justified. I want to share a copy of my Blue Badge with them - and also to know what exactly I am being fined for... 

I did not receive these letters from the debt agency for many months, as they were sent to a property I had recently vacated (+ not the address where the vehicle is registered). By the time I did receive them, these also included letters from a legal firm threatening action. 

My issue is how can I contact the original landowner when I don't have a reference number - should I still do this?

DE_612183

1. They are not fines.

2. Ignore the debt collectors letters.

3. Have you checked your V5 - the originals may have gone to an old address.

4. I think what you have to do is submit a SAR to NCP using your name and reg - that should uncover the details you need.

Le_Kirk

loopdaloopy said:

My issue is how can I contact the original landowner when I don't have a reference number - should I still do this?

What reference number and even if you had one, do you think it would mean anything to the landowner? It's always worthwhile complaining to landowner, which is why it is plan A in the NEWBIE sticky. One of our regulars, @Umkomaas, frequently posts advice on how to find landowners. Click on his name and check out his threads.

Umkomaas

Here you go ....

SOME IDEAS FOR DETERMINING WHO OWNS THE LAND 

1. Google searches

2. If a retail park, check on any signage which lists the on-site outlets

3. Ask retailers on the site if there is a managing agent

4. Ask retailers on the site to whom do they pay rent

5. Contact the local authority and ask who pays the non-domestic/business rate for the car park (some councils have a spreadsheet on their website)

6. Contact the local Valuation Office and ask if they know. They often have a website which might provide the information 

7. Contact The Land Registry and for around £7 they should be able to provide definitive detail

8. If you haven't already done so, give us the name of the car park/site/location, we may have seen other cases there.