QDR Solicitors non-payment of fuel advice required

TooManyPoints

If the petrol station have destroyed all the evidence of who allegedly stole their fuel, how are they planning on bringing a prosecution?

They are not planning to bring a prosecution. That's not what they do. They have simply presented a bill (including their fee) to the OP as the RK.

I suspect that the individual store no longer has access, not that the relevant footage no longer exists

QDR (on behalf of BOSS, in turn on behalf of the filling station) are uninterested in who committed the drive-off. It's too difficult, if not impossible for them to find out. What their business relies on is fooling the recipients of their letters (Registered Keepers) that they can simply transfer the liability for these debts (and their fee) to them. They cannot.

As an aside, even if they had CCTV footage it would not help them. All they would have would be an image of "A N Other". They would have no idea who it was so as to take recovery action against them.

Ectophile

TooManyPoints said:

If the petrol station have destroyed all the evidence of who allegedly stole their fuel, how are they planning on bringing a prosecution?

They are not planning to bring a prosecution. That's not what they do. They have simply presented a bill (including their fee) to the OP as the RK.

I suspect that the individual store no longer has access, not that the relevant footage no longer exists

QDR (on behalf of BOSS, in turn on behalf of the filling station) are uninterested in who committed the drive-off. It's too difficult, if not impossible for them to find out. What their business relies on is fooling the recipients of their letters (Registered Keepers) that they can simply transfer the liability for these debts (and their fee) to them. They cannot.

As an aside, even if they had CCTV footage it would not help them. All they would have would be an image of "A N Other". They would have no idea who it was so as to take recovery action against them.

But if A N Other looks remarkably like a picture of the registered keeper from social media or elsewhere, then they would have a case.  Especially if they are going for a civil claim.

jimjames

Probably also one to remind all drivers of the car that they need to pay for fuel and not leave without payment as it could have other implications for your vehicle (and probably them too) 

user1977

jimjames said:

Probably also one to remind all drivers of the car that they need to pay for fuel and not leave without payment as it could have other implications for your vehicle (and probably them too) 

What implications would it have for the vehicle?

TooManyPoints

But if A N Other looks remarkably like a picture of the registered keeper from social media or elsewhere...

Only if A N Other is stupid enough to plaster photographs of himself on the internet; and whoever was  interested was interested enough to trawl it; and assuming  the RK committed the drive off.

But QDR are uninterested in any of that. Their strategy consists solely of fooling the RK into believing they are responsible for the debt regardless of who committed the drive off. And they are not..

LightFlare

user1977 said:

jimjames said:

Probably also one to remind all drivers of the car that they need to pay for fuel and not leave without payment as it could have other implications for your vehicle (and probably them too) 

What implications would it have for the vehicle?

A police marker for bilking could be an annoyance

user1977

LightFlare said:

user1977 said:

jimjames said:

Probably also one to remind all drivers of the car that they need to pay for fuel and not leave without payment as it could have other implications for your vehicle (and probably them too) 

What implications would it have for the vehicle?

A police marker for bilking could be an annoyance

Nobody here has mentioned the police getting involved so far. I wouldn't expect them to be excited about a one-off debt, especially if there's no evidence to identify the driver.

jimjames

user1977 said:

jimjames said:

Probably also one to remind all drivers of the car that they need to pay for fuel and not leave without payment as it could have other implications for your vehicle (and probably them too) 

What implications would it have for the vehicle?

I've seen some garages list cars that have made off and banned them from using their site

NBLondon

daeargwr said:

To answer the questions I've had. 4 of us in the family drive the car. No payments on bank statements on the date in question.

Looking at when it was filled prior and after it's almost certainly a mistake whoever was driving has made on this occasion so I'm happy to settle the amount of fuel owed rather than ignore.
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Assuming this was a while back and no way to work out which family member was driving it that day? No-one remembers and it's not on a shared calendar? Is the petrol station one the family is likely to use - on a regular route? The other possibility is that it was not your vehicle at all... Could be a cloned plate (in which case you might be getting speeding tickets etc. as well ) Could be a misread of the plate - with no CCTV they can't prove anything.

daeargwr said:

Given the petrol station won't let me settle up directly with them seems I have no other option than paying QDR and their fees.  One to chalk off to experience!

If the petrol station have declined your goodwill offer then I tend to agree with TooManyPoints - file the letters but don't engage.  If you want to challenge them, ask for proof that it was your vehicle.  If a CCTV image does appear, you may then be able to identify the driver and they can pay up.  Or if it isn't your vehicle - you can tell them so.

daeargwr

To close this one off I finally managed to get the petrol station to accept payment so the matter was resolved.  Thanks for the advice in this thread