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Moorside Legal - Letter Before Claim - Missed deadline

Due to a recent bereavement I've be busy and now when returning to life admin I find I've missed the deadline for my Letter Before Claim from Moorside Legal for UKCPS.

Should I still send the stock reply from the Newbie post or should I just wait to see if they actually make a claim? I'm over 2 years into this game and so far all the advice has been to wait so I'm guessing more of the same but from here in stuff gets more spicy and time sensitive.

Additionally what are the deadlines that the companies need to follow for sending out the original letters? I moved around the time I got my fine but I didn't get it until after my redirected mail subscription ran out hence missing the original deadline way back when.

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  • Gr1pr
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    edited 13 May 2025 at 11:17AM
    Email it anyway,  as part of the standard process,  regardless of the time lapse

    It will result in an inevitable court claim against you via MCOL,  in due course,  from the claimant parking company via Moorside Legal, Moorside probably signed up UKCPS last year,  hence all the claims 

    There was no fine,  just a private parking charge notice from a private parking company,  so an Invoice for the alleged breach of the parking contract on that private property 

    The parking company has one chance within the first 6 months to obtain keeper details from the DVLA database under their KADOE contract,  plus one month to get it delivered   ( even if the keeper doesn't live there anymore,  its the keepers Legal responsibility to update the dvla with a new address,  promptly   )

    Missing paperwork is no defence to the core claim , nor does the delay matter,  definitely not within the 7 month window 




  • Le_Kirk
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    Additionally what are the deadlines that the companies need to follow for sending out the original letters? I moved around the time I got my fine but I didn't get it until after my redirected mail subscription ran out hence missing the original deadline way back when.
    Just make sure that everyone involved, PPC and their agents, including Moorside has your up-to-date address for service.  You don't want a N1SDT claim form going to an incorrect address, which gives Moorside an opportunity to foist a CCJ upon you by default.
  • Downhiller_2
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    Court Claim form has arrived!

    For the record I've got two tickets on going at the moment but this is the first to get a court claim stage. It had been a year since I'd heard anything from them so was starting to think it was finally over but seems not!

    Moorside Legal Services Ltd for UKCPS Limited.

    Issue Date: 15 May 2026
    MCOL and AOS applied for: 23 May 2026

    POC:

    The Claim is for an unpaid Parking Charge issued for a breach of contractual terms on DD/MM/2023 at XXXX XXXXX to vehicle XXXXXXX. The signage displayed at the site set out contractual terms and offered a contractual licence, which the Defendant accepted by parking. The Claimant has authority to operate the site and issue charges. The breach was: Failure to pay using the online system. The Defendant is liable as the driver and/or keeper, in contract and/or pursuant to POFA Sch 4, and the charge remains unpaid despite demand. AND THE CLAIMANT CLAIMS 1. £170.00 being the total of the PCN. 2. Costs and Court fees.
    The claimant claims interest under section 69 of the County Courts Act 1984 at the rate of 8% a year from 09/06/2023 to 13/05/2026 on €170.00 and also interest at the same rate up to the date of judgment or earlier payment at a daily rate of £0.02

    For context only: My defence in a nutshell it is it was dark and there wasn't any clear signage relating to paying. The only signage visible was on one wall clearly marking out a number of parking slots were for a local business, I avoided those ones and chose to park in the slots that clearly for where the other building (a now closed down gym). I had parked here in the past at weekend some years previous with no issues or payment needed. It had since closed and was boarded up so parked there again thinking nothing would happen and there being no clear pay machines etc as it used to be a gym. Since then the car park is covered in signage and to be fair to them is now clearly a Pay and display car park but 3 years ago that wasn't the case. As a result getting evidence via photos of the setup on the night is impossible however the signage I did see for the local business is still there and visible on google street view.

  • Gr1pr
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    Please post the issue date from the top right of the claim form below

  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 23 May at 3:32PM

    "For context only: My defence in a nutshell:"

    It was was dark and there wasn't any clear signage relating to paying. The only signage visible was on one wall clearly marking out a number of parking slots were for a local business, I avoided those ones and chose to park in the slots that clearly for where the other building (a now closed down gym). I had parked here in the past at weekend some years previous with no issues or payment needed. It had since closed and was boarded up so parked there again thinking nothing would happen and there being no clear pay machines etc as it used to be a gym. Since then the car park is covered in signage and to be fair to them is now clearly a Pay and display car park but 3 years ago that wasn't the case. As a result getting evidence via photos of the setup on the night is impossible however the signage I did see for the local business is still there and visible on google street view.

    That's your para 3 then, because you obviously can't use the Chan & Akande version para 3 (as the breach is stated).

    Except change "I" to 'the Defendant' and refer to yourself as he or she or they, so that your stuff you add to the Template as para 3 is all in the third person,

    Pleeeeeease don't post post the Template Defence here … you've no idea how many people do that every week! We don't need to see or check the template defence.

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  • Le_Kirk
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    If that is the issue date of the N1SDT claim form you have shown, then, with an issue date of 15/05/26 and providing you complete(d) the AoS before or on 03/06/26 your defence deadline date is 4.00 p.m. on 17/06/26

    What do you mean by MCOL and AOS applied for?

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