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BW legal fluttering ticket - LBC

Good morning. 

Please could one of you experts give me a steer on my situation. 

I have a letter before claim from BW legal from a car park in Devon last year on holiday. I had a valid ticket but it had blown into a recess in the dash and was difficult to observe. 

I never thought it would get this far and due to naivety I have made a number of errors. Initially I appealed directly to Premier Park thinking once I showed the valid ticket that would be the end of it.  At this stage I admitted to driving my partners car. I now know this was foolish and has likely closed some avenues of defence. 

The signage was very confusing (although this was not upheld at POPLA) and I inputted the VRN into the car park machine. Generally when this is done, pay and display is not required. However the operator claims they do not use the VRN (other than to stop people sharing tickets!) and pay and display is mandatory.

I tried to obtain CCTV from the site but the parking operator said they didn’t own the site or cameras and refused to provide the landowners details. 

Should I continue or have some of the usual lines of defence been closed off and therefore pay and put this down to experience. 

Thank you. 



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  • prowla
    prowla Posts: 13,858 Forumite
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    A bit after the event, but I use a clothes peg in the car to stop fluttering tickets.
  • Nellymoser
    Nellymoser Posts: 1,349 Forumite
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    How unhelpful of Premier Park not to give you landowner details. Of course PP want to stop you from contacting the landowner incase landowner instructs PP to cancel your pcn. They don't want anything to stop their attempts to gain more money from you.

    PLAN A in NEWBIES thread is often successful.
    If you name the car park the landowner may be known on here and the linked post suggests other ways.
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6337652/how-to-find-details-of-landowner

    2nd post in NEWBIES titled Small Claim tells you how to deal with LBC.
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 148,639 Forumite
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    prowla said:
    A bit after the event, but I use a clothes peg in the car to stop fluttering tickets.
    I keep a blob of blutack
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • There are loads of people who have had the same issue according to the Google reviews of the car park. 

    The ticket is so flimsy, whatever happened to the gummed edges you stick to the windscreen. 

    Unlikely I have the time to contact the landowner now even if I could identify them. 
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