Obtaining NI number of deceased.

Lifeliver

Newby, sorry if i am in the wrong subject line. My question is, Am i able to obtain my late fathers NI number ? I think i need this to track motions of his bank account also to where his state pension was paid into.. I am direct next of kin, and only recently discovered his passing. As i understand there has been no Probate or Will left, the fact his property was cleared of all furniture and paper work etc by other family members,  i have nothing to start a line of enquiries for bank accounts or to where his state pension was paid into. I feel that by obtaining his NI i would have a place to start, would i need to make contact with works and pensions ? Perhaps some one has an idea to where i might start. Thank you.

Robin9

Have you access to any of his correspondence - letter from HMRC or DWP ?

p00hsticks

I think without a will naming you as executor and the fact that someone other than you presumably registered the death then you may struggle to get that information from the authorities. Who arranged the funeral ? 


Going at it the other way round, if you had a copy of his bank statement then it will appear as the reference for any benefits that DWP pay into that account. 

madbadrob

Have you searched to see if he had a will and it was proved?
If not then use https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills 

This will tell you if a will was pur through probate and if no will whether someone applied for letters of admon.

Even if you have his NI number the banks are very unlikely to tell you any information and my bank have no clue what my NI is.  If you are trying to find out what benefits he was receiving at time of death then yes you would need that but again DWP could be funny and refuse you any information.

I am assuming you are wanting to find out what money he left and whether you have anything coming to you?

Next of kin is a misnomer as there really is no such thing.  Anyone can be the next of kin in todays world.  

Rob

sheramber

Have you spoken to whoever took on the responsibility of dealing with the estate and arranging  the  funeral?

Lifeliver

It appears the arrangements were made by a cousin, no attempt to make contact with myself. Probate has been checked, nothing. Unable to find where a state pension was paid into. No paper trail at this time. Speaking to a solicitor on a 15min free advice call, told me there seems to be something wrong with arrangements. Attempts should have been made to make contact to the next of kin (Myself), even the Vicar should have made more efforts. I am wondering if i should make contact with DWP.

Lifeliver

Robin9 said:

Have you access to any of his correspondence - letter from HMRC or DWP ?

Thank you.
No paper trail at all.

Lifeliver

p00hsticks said:

I think without a will naming you as executor and the fact that someone other than you presumably registered the death then you may struggle to get that information from the authorities. Who arranged the funeral ? 

Going at it the other way round, if you had a copy of his bank statement then it will appear as the reference for any benefits that DWP pay into that account. 

We have approached the funeral directors who not release details under the confidential process, even though i can prove i am a direct  next of kin.
The only paper i have found is via a Post Office account closed some years ago.

Lifeliver

sheramber said:

Have you spoken to whoever took on the responsibility of dealing with the estate and arranging  the  funeral?

I cannot get a reply to my question, they just will not converse, 

Lifeliver

Lifeliver said:

sheramber said:

Have you spoken to whoever took on the responsibility of dealing with the estate and arranging  the  funeral?

I cannot get a reply to my question, they just will not converse, 

Tried, but will not correspond.  

poppystar

Lifeliver said:

It appears the arrangements were made by a cousin, no attempt to make contact with myself. Probate has been checked, nothing. Unable to find where a state pension was paid into. No paper trail at this time. Speaking to a solicitor on a 15min free advice call, told me there seems to be something wrong with arrangements. Attempts should have been made to make contact to the next of kin (Myself), even the Vicar should have made more efforts. I am wondering if i should make contact with DWP.

Have you approached the vicar? Obviously he won’t know the NI number but I’m not sure that will help you anyway. Vicars can be remarkably and quietly helpful and often do know what is going on.