Person tripped over my outside cable cover whilst charging car...

Exodi

I think there were a million and one different ways to do this better.

What is clear to me was that this specific product was specifically chosen for it's ability to protect the cable.

Reverse image searching the product shows most websites advertising this as a 'Cable Protector' or a 'Cable Guard' marketed on it's ability to withstand a large amount of weight and it's high level of cable protection. It can withstand a car being driven over it and is very similar to the ramps used by my local co op to indicate to cars they've reached the back of a parking space.

It was not purchased with public safety in mind, just how steep it is and the fact the OP had regularly witnessed people tripping over it shows that. If public safety was prioritised, there are a whole host of better options, including things like cable mats, much shorter and wider rubber cable covers, or as mentioned earlier, council approved options like gullies.

MeteredOut said:

Tryinghardtosave said:

get one of these Charge Gully | Charging an EV without a Driveway

The OP was online yesterday so it looks like we might not be getting any more updates, which is a shame.

Agreed, with daft comments like:

joeythepoey said:

people occasionally trip over it during the morning because they were locked onto their phone.

I expect they probably expected the response would be "it's their fault, they shouldn't have been glued to their phone!" rather than confusion of why the OP is suprised placing a known trip hazard caused someone to trip.

MeteredOut

Exodi said:

I think there were a million and one different ways to do this better.

What is clear to me was that this specific product was specifically chosen for it's ability to protect the cable.

Reverse image searching the product shows most websites advertising this as a 'Cable Protector' or a 'Cable Guard' marketed on it's ability to withstand a large amount of weight and it's high level of cable protection. It can withstand a car being driven over it and is very similar to the ones used by my local co op.

It was not purchased with public safety in mind, just how steep it is and the fact the OP had regularly witnessed people tripping over it shows that. If public safety was prioritised, there are a whole host of better options, including things like cable mats, much shorter and wider rubber cable covers, or as mentioned earlier, council approved options like gullies.

MeteredOut said:

Tryinghardtosave said:

get one of these Charge Gully | Charging an EV without a Driveway

The OP was online yesterday so it looks like we might not be getting any more updates, which is a shame.

With daft comments like:

joeythepoey said:

people occasionally trip over it during the morning because they were locked onto their phone.

I expect they probably expected the response would be "it's their fault, they shouldn't have been glued to their phone!" rather than confusion of why the OP is suprised placing a known trip hazard caused someone to trip.

I agree with your last point, but believe this board can still offer help to the OP, if they return, to navigate the discussions regarding any remedy the victim is wanting/expecting.

jeffuk

I can't see a world where public chargers can get even remotely close to the rates home users can enjoy.

Correct, but I can see a world where the government add a fuel duty type tax to home charging to bring it in line with public chargers.

DullGreyGuy

jeffuk said:

I can't see a world where public chargers can get even remotely close to the rates home users can enjoy.

Correct, but I can see a world where the government add a fuel duty type tax to home charging to bring it in line with public chargers.

How would they ever know you were trickle charing your car -v- running a couple of electric heaters?

The government could cut VAT on electricity for public infrastructure charging and they could further subsidise setup and maintenance of public charging infrastructure. Certainly they will need to do more if they really want electric cars to take off in major cities, in particular London, where flats are a much higher proportion of housing stock and few have off street parking

Okell

Tryinghardtosave said:

get one of these Charge Gully | Charging an EV without a Driveway

But wouldn't you have to be certain that you could park directly outside your house for this to work?

On the road I live there is only on-street parking and there are no parking spaces dedicated to individual houses.  It's first come, first served.

eskbanker

Baldytyke88 said:
It is an offence to obstruct public roads, footpaths and pavements, but that doesn't stop cars from parking on it. Their defence is(outside London) that they only obstruct part of it, so the police don't enforce it.

Not just London, it's also illegal to park on the pavement in Scotland, for example:

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/asp/2019/17/part/6/crossheading/pavement-parking-prohibition/enacted

MeteredOut

jeffuk said:

I can't see a world where public chargers can get even remotely close to the rates home users can enjoy.

Correct, but I can see a world where the government add a fuel duty type tax to home charging to bring it in line with public chargers.

Impossible to implement with current charging technologies, so at least a decade away. Pay-per-mile will come first.

Grumpy_chap

Exodi said:

I think even disregarding the cost of installing the infrastructure, you must still consider overheads and profits for the company installing them. Plus even if you could disregard all of that, I'm still not sure it could be matched.

E.g. I'm currently on the EON Next Drive tariff - my unit rate is 6.7p/kWh when charged between the hours of midnight and 7am. Obviously I have my charger scheduled to only dispense electricity during those hours. I have a 61kWh battery, meaning if I plugged it in at 15% charge, it would just about charge to 100% overnight in that window for a total cost of £3.47.

A significant amount of public chargers I've encountered charge 79p/kWh, which would put the cost for the same charge at £40.96 - frankly insane difference, hence I would rather push the car down the motorway than charge at the services.

I suspect the cost of public EV charging is not set from a bottom-up pricing generating a target profit percentage but is set to market-price as high as can be tolerated by the consumer and by reference to a competitive product.

I have, over the past few years, worked out energy cost per mile for public EV charging and, whenever I have done this, the cost has come out in the similar range to the cost of fuelling an ICE at the local petrol station.

Hoenir

vacheron said:

If the government really thinks that electric vehicles are the future they really need to consider the millions of people who would work and live in home similar to those of this manager and the OP.  

Alternatively decline the company car if it's an inconvenience. 

matt_drummer

Hoenir said:

vacheron said:

If the government really thinks that electric vehicles are the future they really need to consider the millions of people who would work and live in home similar to those of this manager and the OP.  

Alternatively decline the company car if it's an inconvenience. 

Presumably, being a company car, the company pays for the electricity so it doesn't matter what it costs.

It would be silly not to as there is no fuel benefit with electric vehicles.

I charge my company car at work foc and claim back anything I pay on public chargers.

I never charge it at home.