Windows 10 Upgrade - OPatch

HillStreetBlues · 10 May at 12:13PM

BFBW said:

HillStreetBlues said:

GDB2222 said:

If you're interested in the answer, it's here:

"It then looks at the TPM to make sure that the boot entry is from an accepted vendor, like MS or Ubuntu .... and of course that part must be signed and verified as well ... only run systems that are cryptographically verified..."

Or, for a while, you can bypass that. Until, your bank account is hacked....

There are quite a lot of people who have loaded W11 onto systems that can't implement the security system properly. As long as they don't have email on those computers, or do shopping or online banking, it may not expose them to much loss.

In the meantime, they'll tell you how clever they have been.

TMP 1.2 is so unsafe everyone is currently inundated with all these nasties already, or maybe it's a MS plot as all these nasties will be suddenly released when support for Win 10 ends to get those who used unsupported hardware to get Win 11

You have to wonder about their motivation here....
Even if you enabled it, it wouldn't stop people from clicking on dodgy links. Cryptography isn't going to save you from that.

I do wonder as well, it seems strange on a money saving site.
I'm guessing some don't even know that MS has released a version of Win11 that doesn't even require any TMP and can use legacy BIOS

BFBW · 11 May at 6:33AM

GDB2222 said:

BFBW said:

GDB2222 said:

BFBW said:

caveman38 said:

In anticipation for the October deadline for W10 support. I am looking for my options without changing my PC and laptop.
One of the options is to use OPatch to handle security updates which MS will cease to do.
Does anyone know how efficient this is and what it costs in comparison to MS's option to pay $30 for an extra years security updates.

Just to reiterate. Just move to Windows 11. Bypass the compatibility check and install anyway. Likelihood is that you'll be okay until 2028....but don't quote me on that

What you mean is that there’s a few risks involved!

There are NO risks involved. Don't tell me what I mean. I wrote what I meant. Stop the Trolling. Thank you.

I apologise then. What did you mean by 'don't quote me'?

If 25H2 is released as an Enablement Package, there will likely not be an impediment to unsupported devices upgrading to it from 24H2.....hence supported two years after October the 13th 2026. But don't quote me on that

BFBW · 1 July at 10:02AM

Following on from my previous message....
25H2 is confirmed to be an Enablement Package.

1957DfurdPensionist · 5 July at 10:16PM

BFBW said:
Devices from 2009 can run Windows 11.

I don't know how well a 2009 machine might run W11, but I have recently upgraded two different W10 machines of around 2015 and 2016 vintage (an Asus and an HP) that according to Microsoft Health Check should not/cannot be upgraded.

WARNING - what follows may only be suitable suggestions for geeks!

There are a number of how to videos on Youtube and my method involved use of Rufus and Flyby, and involved downloading the correct W11 manual installation file from Microsoft. Whether Microsoft will continue to make it easy to download that file may mean you might want to grab it now. It is about 5GB. It may take a while to force the upgrade, and you need to think carefully about whether you first need to back up important files, and then about whether you have disk headroom on the operating system drive partition because the process will create a Windows.old backup folder.

But in my case it worked and I am using the Asus right now (which actually is the slowest to boot). On the HP I successfully rolled back to W10, following another Youtube video, just to see if that worked also. I think I read the option to rollback lasts only 10 days? So if anyone is feeling adventurous, and can carefully and confidently follow techie type instructions, then you may wish to give it a go.

I encountered three standard installation options - obviously the one you need for a seamless upgrade is the one that keeps all your existing files and Apps. If that option is greyed out, then don't proceed - you may need to think again about what language/region options you had in W10 and sometimes use a different language/regional 5GB download to match your original setup and overcome the grey out.

Ultimately this old still wannabe geek will probably buy a new device, but not this year