where will our universal credit stand with carers element added?

huckster

Legislation for Northern Ireland can differ, so may be the student loan is not available in this case.  A breakdown of the Bursary would still need to be provided to UC, so they can work out any deduction that may apply.

From RCN website related to Northern Ireland. 

Northern Ireland

HSC Bursary

If you are studying in Northern Ireland and are eligible for the Nursing and Midwifery Student Bursary, you will have maintenance elements of the bursary taken into account:

Non means tested bursary

Dependants’ Allowances

Are all taken into consideration as income over the 12 months of the course, or your course end date if you are in the final year.

The following elements of the Bursary should be disregarded:

Registered Childcare Costs

Parent Learning Allowance

Clinical Placement Expenses

fitzykev

huckster said:

Legislation for Northern Ireland can differ, so may be the student loan is not available in this case.  A breakdown of the Bursary would still need to be provided to UC, so they can work out any deduction that may apply.

From RCN website related to Northern Ireland. 

Northern Ireland

HSC Bursary

If you are studying in Northern Ireland and are eligible for the Nursing and Midwifery Student Bursary, you will have maintenance elements of the bursary taken into account:

Non means tested bursary

Dependants’ Allowances

Are all taken into consideration as income over the 12 months of the course, or your course end date if you are in the final year.

The following elements of the Bursary should be disregarded:

Registered Childcare Costs

Parent Learning Allowance

Clinical Placement Expenses

Non means teatsed so it wont affect entitlement.

BURSARY RATES FOR STUDENTS COMMENCING FROM

ACADEMIC YEAR 2024 (Subject to Change)

Basic Award

(non-means tested)

Per academic year

£5165

Per month

£430.42

Dependants Allowances

(means-tested)

Spouse or first child

£2747

Each subsequent child £652

Parents Learning Allowance £1294 p.a.

Contribution towards

£1245(max)

Childcare Costs per

academic year

Disabled Student Allowances

Allowance £5266

Specialist Equipment

(whole course)

Non-Medical Help £20,938(per annum)

General Allowance £1759 (per annum)

CosmoChic

Not sure I follow your logic regarding non means tested.  It reads to me as though it's the bursary itself is paid to anyone whether they are on UC or a millionaire i.e. it is the provision of the bursary that is non means tested.

From the information @huckster posted, it appears to indicate the maintenance element of the bursary will be means-tested by UC.  

Assuming your wife did not claim any dependents elements in addition to the basic bursary, so it is the £430pm UC will need to be aware of in order for them to assess how much (if any) is able to be disregarded.

If the bursary includes dependents elements, I'd suggest you speak CAB as a matter of urgency.

fitzykev

CosmoChic said:

Not sure I follow your logic regarding non means tested.  It reads to me as though it's the bursary itself is paid to anyone whether they are on UC or a millionaire i.e. it is the provision of the bursary that is non means tested.

From the information @huckster posted, it appears to indicate the maintenance element of the bursary will be means-tested by UC.  

Assuming your wife did not claim any dependents elements in addition to the basic bursary, so it is the £430pm UC will need to be aware of in order for them to assess how much (if any) is able to be disregarded.

If the bursary includes dependents elements, I'd suggest you speak CAB as a matter of urgency.

2025 at 11:53am

Hi Kevin, No if she does not receive a loan then it will not affect her claim. She will need to report that she is in education though. Kind Regards, Lee

teaselMay

That's different to what the Royal College of Nursing says here https://www.rcn.org.uk/Get-Help/Member-support-services/Welfare-Service/Understanding-benefits/Students-and-benefits/Universal-Credit


" Northern Ireland

HSC Bursary

If you are studying in Northern Ireland and are eligible for the Nursing and Midwifery Student Bursary, you will have maintenance elements of the bursary taken into account:

• Non means tested bursary
• Dependants’ Allowances

Are all taken into consideration as income over the 12 months of the course, or your course end date if you are in the final year.

The following elements of the Bursary should be disregarded:

• Registered Childcare Costs
• Parent Learning Allowance
• Clinical Placement Expenses"

Edit, sorry I'd missed that Huckster had already posted this

CosmoChic

That response doesn't tell us what the question was.

If the question was "My wife receives a bursary - with our without dependent elements - does that affect our claim?"  Then that's an absolutely grand answer.

If the question was "My wife is studying but does not receive a maintenance loan - does that affect our UC claim?"
Then that's not really a grand answer because the question does not truly reflect your wife's situation regarding income.

fitzykev

CosmoChic said:

That response doesn't tell us what the question was.

If the question was "My wife receives a bursary - with our without dependent elements - does that affect our claim?"  Then that's an absolutely grand answer.

If the question was "My wife is studying but does not receive a maintenance loan - does that affect our UC claim?"
Then that's not really a grand answer because the question does not truly reflect your wife's situation regarding income.

Sorry this was the question

Good morning my wife needs to report her non means tested bursary. Also that she has no loan for her nursing and midwifery degree as nursing and midwifery students are not aloud  a lone as department of health cover all course fees. Becauae she is not aloud a loan i take it no loan amount is considered in our entitelment?
Kind regards

fitzykev

My copy and past posts are not working. Anyway so i got someone on the phone eventually and i have been advised the bursay will not be taken into account. And also because nursing students in northern ireland are not aloud a uni loan that a zero amount loan wont be taken into consideration

CosmoChic

That's excellent news! 

 At least you can stop worrying about that now, and focus on how to progress given your changing circumstances regarding your own employment/caring duties.