2016 used Nissan Qashqai - no puncture repair kit

makara

Herzlos said:

Them getting a new locking nut from Nissan seems reasonable, there are only a few options.

Nothing about that screams problem, assuming the rest of the car checks out, history, hpi, condition.

Many thanks - I didn't realise there were only a few different types - I assumed every single car with those nuts had a different unique shaped nut for it

After looking at several Qashqais on Auto trader and other such websites - I settled on this particular one as it had no major flags in the MOT history (general wear and tear failures only)

- and it only had one previous owner (I know that isn't the be all and end all - but I avoid cars with more than 2 or 3 owners as I start to suspect the car must be getting sold on and on for a reason) 

born_again

Better bet on locking nuts.
Get them to remove them & just replace with normal nuts...
Odds on someone nicking wheels is slim to none. Unlike years ago, when having alloys was a rare thing.

makara

born_again said:

Better bet on locking nuts.
Get them to remove them & just replace with normal nuts...
Odds on someone nicking wheels is slim to none. Unlike years ago, when having alloys was a rare thing.

Many thanks - this is what Halfords had to do (ordinary nut replacement) as we didn't have the alloy locking nut for our Peugeot 207

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photome said:

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makara said:

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1) am I missing out on anything special by that puncture repair Tray missing all its contents?

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2) there are NOT unique ones for every single Qashqai - but about 7 or 8 different ones - that a Nissan dealership will be able to provide the correct replacement for

Are my car sellers correct about the above? 

1) If you have a puncture, and the Nice Man from the RAC arrives, if you don't have either the gloop or a spare wheel, he will shrug and tell you he can't do anything. If you do have the gloop, but it won't work he will take your wheel to a tyre fitter or arrange recovery. (Unless their policy has changed from when it happened to SIL)

Plenty of kits on eBay, although I'd spend a bit more on a spacesaver and jack.

(The reason that there are plenty on eBay is because people remove everything loose from their car just before they take it to trade-in (spacesaver, pump, tools, rear parcel shelf, boot floor, charger if it is an EV etc.) and then sell them on eBay to make a few more pounds.

2) They are quite correct. It is easy for them to get a replacement. Do NOT accept the car without one that you have physically tried and ensured that it fits. Accept no promises of "It's on order- we'll pass it on when it arrives" etc.

The RAC  will put the universal spare wheel on that they carry and follow you home or to a tyre fitter 

They didn't for SIL, he inflated the tyre with his pump and followed her home inflating it again half way. (He told her it was all he could do, and it was only because she was "so close to home", otherwise he couldn't have done anything)

Maybe the "Universal Spare" isn't that universal...

It was an L322 RangeRover, punctures were the least of it's problems.....

400ixl

born_again said:

Better bet on locking nuts.
Get them to remove them & just replace with normal nuts...
Odds on someone nicking wheels is slim to none. Unlike years ago, when having alloys was a rare thing.

And then declare the modification to the insurer and pay more for your insurance, or don't declare and give them an opportunity to decline a theft claim.

Just get them to ensure a set is fitted and you have the key to match. They have said they will so just make sure they have when you collect it. 30 seconds to test it on one of the locking wheel nuts, you don't have to actually undo any.

sheramber

The previous owner may have used the puncture repair kit and not replaced it. 

photome

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photome said:

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makara said:

<snip>

1) am I missing out on anything special by that puncture repair Tray missing all its contents?

<snip>

2) there are NOT unique ones for every single Qashqai - but about 7 or 8 different ones - that a Nissan dealership will be able to provide the correct replacement for

Are my car sellers correct about the above? 

1) If you have a puncture, and the Nice Man from the RAC arrives, if you don't have either the gloop or a spare wheel, he will shrug and tell you he can't do anything. If you do have the gloop, but it won't work he will take your wheel to a tyre fitter or arrange recovery. (Unless their policy has changed from when it happened to SIL)

Plenty of kits on eBay, although I'd spend a bit more on a spacesaver and jack.

(The reason that there are plenty on eBay is because people remove everything loose from their car just before they take it to trade-in (spacesaver, pump, tools, rear parcel shelf, boot floor, charger if it is an EV etc.) and then sell them on eBay to make a few more pounds.

2) They are quite correct. It is easy for them to get a replacement. Do NOT accept the car without one that you have physically tried and ensured that it fits. Accept no promises of "It's on order- we'll pass it on when it arrives" etc.

The RAC  will put the universal spare wheel on that they carry and follow you home or to a tyre fitter 

They didn't for SIL, he inflated the tyre with his pump and followed her home inflating it again half way. (He told her it was all he could do, and it was only because she was "so close to home", otherwise he couldn't have done anything)

Maybe the "Universal Spare" isn't that universal...

It was an L322 RangeRover, punctures were the least of its problems.....

Maybe they are not that universal but my guess is they will fit a Qashqui, they definitely fit a Seat Ibiza

Herzlos

400ixl said:

born_again said:

Better bet on locking nuts.
Get them to remove them & just replace with normal nuts...
Odds on someone nicking wheels is slim to none. Unlike years ago, when having alloys was a rare thing.

And then declare the modification to the insurer and pay more for your insurance, or don't declare and give them an opportunity to decline a theft claim.

Just get them to ensure a set is fitted and you have the key to match. They have said they will so just make sure they have when you collect it. 30 seconds to test it on one of the locking wheel nuts, you don't have to actually undo any.

Is it really a modification? You're just replacing a bolt with another bolt in spec. Sure they wouldn't insure you if someone stole the wheels but that doesn't really happen anymore.

In this case though, the OP still needs to get the locking key in order to get the wheels off in the first place so may as well just leave them on unless they start to get worn.

Herzlos

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photome said:

facade said:

makara said:

<snip>

1) am I missing out on anything special by that puncture repair Tray missing all its contents?

<snip>

2) there are NOT unique ones for every single Qashqai - but about 7 or 8 different ones - that a Nissan dealership will be able to provide the correct replacement for

Are my car sellers correct about the above? 

1) If you have a puncture, and the Nice Man from the RAC arrives, if you don't have either the gloop or a spare wheel, he will shrug and tell you he can't do anything. If you do have the gloop, but it won't work he will take your wheel to a tyre fitter or arrange recovery. (Unless their policy has changed from when it happened to SIL)

Plenty of kits on eBay, although I'd spend a bit more on a spacesaver and jack.

(The reason that there are plenty on eBay is because people remove everything loose from their car just before they take it to trade-in (spacesaver, pump, tools, rear parcel shelf, boot floor, charger if it is an EV etc.) and then sell them on eBay to make a few more pounds.

2) They are quite correct. It is easy for them to get a replacement. Do NOT accept the car without one that you have physically tried and ensured that it fits. Accept no promises of "It's on order- we'll pass it on when it arrives" etc.

The RAC  will put the universal spare wheel on that they carry and follow you home or to a tyre fitter 

They didn't for SIL, he inflated the tyre with his pump and followed her home inflating it again half way. (He told her it was all he could do, and it was only because she was "so close to home", otherwise he couldn't have done anything)

Maybe the "Universal Spare" isn't that universal...

It was an L322 RangeRover, punctures were the least of it's problems.....

I wonder if the universal spare just doesn't fit over the brake calipers for larger sized wheels. They can only be so universal.

Though the L322 was before they all had huge alloys?

makara

Managed to sell our MOT failure Peugeot 207 to our mechanic today - wanted it done fast so I can at least recoup the outstanding Road Tax (ends in November)

I then phoned the car dealer who I reserved the Nissan Qashqai from - and he said "So when are you coming to collect it...?"

I told him bluntly we had AGREED that THEY would deliver it to our home - which is less than 2 miles away from them!!

He went "Oh ok then" - and I told him to deliver it on Wednesday

I asked / reminded him to get the missing Locking wheel nut key from Nissan - which on March 28th he had said he would do on March 29th - and of course he hasn't...saying he will get it from Nissan just before he comes to us - and that "it only takes 15 minutes to get one"

When I repeated it's MANDATORY we get one - he sarcastically said he will refund me the full deposit if he doesn't come with a new Locking nut key

He then tried to tell me "it's a MINOR thing"

I retorted there is nothing MINOR about it   - and told him it was a real problem when our Peugeot's wheel needed removing for some work under it - all due to it not having a Locking nut key


Let's see if he brings it - as if he doesn't I might tell him I am paying him £50 less than the balance I owe


On that note - how much IS a typical replacement Locking nut key?  i.e. how much should I barter him down for if he doesn't bring me one with the car?


P.S. -


They wouldn't budge on the price of the advertised price of the car either   - and he seems confident enough to say he'll refund me (although maybe he's trying to call my bluff...) if he doesn't get me the Locking nut key


- but I read online that dealers are not haggling these days on used cars as the demand is great for them at the moment - partly (or maybe mostly?) due to people needing ULEZ compliant cars