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  • Murphybear
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    A more serious problem is that the USA has started refusing entry to people with British passports, apparently for no reason. This is not something that your insurance would cover.


    Interesting.  Many years ago the U.K. passport office went on strike although you could still get a British Visitors Passport which was issued at the Post Office, was valid for one year and could only be used in Western Europe.   The USA decided they didn’t want to lose their British visitors and allowed them in with the BVP.  We were very popular back then  :D

    The reason I remember this is that I was working in a big PO in London at the time and we issued hundreds of these passports.  The HM Passport Office withdrew the BVP due to concerns about its ease of access and the document's security.
  • LightFlare
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    To the OP - if the agent had contacted you to say “sorry,price has gone up by £300 so we’ve cancelled your booking, feel free to rebook at the new price” - would you be happy ??

    As said - that’s life and prices change. You were (presumably) happy with what you paid originally

    *btw - post is in the wrong section. This is for UK
  • LightFlare
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    I just paid 1600 pounds for 5 nights to nye and now loveholidays changed there prices for 7 days for 1484 pounds made a complaint and they will not do anything and saying your booking is none refundable and kept making comments that prices can change. Told them it’s unfair that paid for 5 nights when could got it for 7 nights cheaper the next day. I am not 100% upset because going to my dream holday first time abroad but did date change to add more days onto my booking and now going to feel like been ripped off and loveholidays are not being supportive and did price match thing because seen cheaper again on expedia. Any advice or just enjoy my first holiday there
    Just for the record 
  • jimjames
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    400ixl said:
    A more serious problem is that the USA has started refusing entry to people with British passports, apparently for no reason. This is not something that your insurance would cover.


    What is the source of this information? As a frequent US visitor I have not seen anything suggesting anything has changed.
    Not sure if Voyager has a problem with US immigration, reply to a comment on a previous post about trying to avoid them so maybe a theme here
    Remember the saying: if it looks too good to be true it almost certainly is.
  • zagfles
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    A more serious problem is that the USA has started refusing entry to people with British passports, apparently for no reason. This is not something that your insurance would cover.


    Complete rubbish. There've been a few isolated cases of people being refused entry or detained because of various reasons, incorrect paperwork, not complying with visa requirements like working on a tourist visa, having classified info on them etc. The usual gutter press and social media conspiracy theorists have tried to whip it up into a ridiculous conspiracy theory that you won't get in if you don't like Trump. 
  • TELLIT01
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    As others have said "That's life".  If Loveholidays had increase the cost of the holiday after the purchase, would the OP have been happy if they demanded more?
  • XxDarkMarioxX
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    Just update that they gave me the price guarantee offer and knocked price down to 1300 pounds instead of 1600 pounds because it was cheaper on another website. But really glad that took screenshots and sent it to them. Learned a lesson always do research before you book holiday 
  • Voyager2002
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    400ixl said:
    A more serious problem is that the USA has started refusing entry to people with British passports, apparently for no reason. This is not something that your insurance would cover.


    What is the source of this information? As a frequent US visitor I have not seen anything suggesting anything has changed.

    Provided you have a valid passport and ESTA then refusal is unlikely and should be covered by insurance as you have done everything you can to comply with entry requirements.

    Insurance would NEVER cover the actions of a sovereign government like this.

    The German government has changed its travel advice to warn people of this risk, and the media are full of this kind of incident, including a number of British visitors.
  • lr1277
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    edited 25 March at 10:14PM
    This article in the Washington Post notes the British government has issued a travel advisory for the USA:

    Edited link to article:

    Quote from the article:
    the United Kingdom has cautioned that U.S. authorities “set and enforce entry rules strictly” and that “you may be liable to arrest or detention if you break the rules.”

    2nd edit: there are stories of German, Canadian and British citizens being detained without access to a lawyer. If memory serves the German lady was held for 2 weeks.
    There is also the possibility prices are going down because tourists are not visiting or planning to visit the USA. Speculation on my part.
    The only advice I have seen is:
    Take a burner mobile phone - it is perfectly legal for them to want your phone and for you to unlock it so that they can look at all the messages/emails on your phone.
    Have the number of the British embassy or consulate on the phone so that they can get you a lawyer. Unless you know a lawyer in the USA who will help you.

    3rd edit: I have read in the Washington Post by those who post comments:
    Don't show support for Hamas - supporting Palestinians is the same as supporting Hamas in the eyes of the American government
    Don't defame Israel
    Don't make comments on anything that is a priority for the American government unless it is full throated support. Oh and don't poke any sore spots like democracy, authoritarianism and anything else being clamped down on by the American goverment.
    If you think I am being hysterical, fine. Feel free to make said comments to the CBP officers on arrival at an American airport.
    If you read the comments to the article, even some American citizens don't want to leave the country because they are not sure they will be re-admitted.

  • zagfles
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    lr1277 said:
    This article in the Washington Post notes the British government has issued a travel advisory for the USA:

    Edited link to article:

    Quote from the article:
    the United Kingdom has cautioned that U.S. authorities “set and enforce entry rules strictly” and that “you may be liable to arrest or detention if you break the rules.”

    2nd edit: there are stories of German, Canadian and British citizens being detained without access to a lawyer. If memory serves the German lady was held for 2 weeks.
    There is also the possibility prices are going down because tourists are not visiting or planning to visit the USA. Speculation on my part.
    The only advice I have seen is:
    Take a burner mobile phone - it is perfectly legal for them to want your phone and for you to unlock it so that they can look at all the messages/emails on your phone.
    Have the number of the British embassy or consulate on the phone so that they can get you a lawyer. Unless you know a lawyer in the USA who will help you.

    3rd edit: I have read in the Washington Post by those who post comments:
    Don't show support for Hamas - supporting Palestinians is the same as supporting Hamas in the eyes of the American government
    Don't defame Israel
    Don't make comments on anything that is a priority for the American government unless it is full throated support. Oh and don't poke any sore spots like democracy, authoritarianism and anything else being clamped down on by the American goverment.
    If you think I am being hysterical, fine. Feel free to make said comments to the CBP officers on arrival at an American airport.
    If you read the comments to the article, even some American citizens don't want to leave the country because they are not sure they will be re-admitted.

    Complete media hysteria. And like with UK papers, the comments sections are full of even more hysteria, conspiracy theorists, and politically motivated loonies from the extreme ends of the political scale. 

    What are the actual facts and figures? Lets have some numbers. How many British citizens have travelled to the US in the last few months and how many have been refused entry? Of those who have been refused entry, or detained, how many have complied with all the rules? I know a few people who've travelled to the US in the last few weeks and had no problems at all. That's not in the papers though. Too boring. 

    It's probably true they're enforcing the rules that already existed more rigorously. I knew people many years ago who travelled to the US pretending to be a normal tourist but worked as an au-pair, illegally. Those sort of people might have problems. But they're breaking the rules. That's all the FCDO updated advice is saying, they're enforcing the rules.

    But the idea you'll be politically vetted is laughable, unless you support proscribed terrorists in which case no sensible country will let you enter including the UK hopefully. 

    I wasn't planning to go to the US this year, but might do now as all this media hysteria may make touristy stuff cheaper  :D
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