Benefit cuts announcement

HillStreetBlues

housebuyer143 said:

I agree somethings they are not consulting on, but a big one they are.
"11.Should we delay access to the health element of Universal Credit within the reformed system until someone is aged 22?"

If everyone who this effects did the consultation they might get results that make them rethink some of the changes. 

I'm not sure why they don't have a two tiered PIP. Higher for those who get 4 points in one activity and lower for those who get 12 points across them all. Then the Health element of UC is only paid to the higher rated claimants. I'm just thinking that I know many on pip who use the money to facilitate them working and they won't get qualify at all under the new changes so I'm not sure how they will continue to work without it.

Thw site I linked to above that represent claimants state "The Green paper consultation is so dishonest that we feel unable to recommend that people take part in the way we normally would" I personally wouldn't bother.   What I  will do is put my X in a ballot box.

huckster

All of these changes have to go through both houses of Parliament. The legislation that is produced may look quite different. 

Government and Parliament don't suffer from a lack of lobbying from interested groups.

Muttleythefrog

housebuyer143 said:

HillStreetBlues said:

housebuyer143 said:

MSE_James said:

Pollycat said:

Let's hope that MSE put out a practical down-to-earth explanation soon so that people worrying about the impact on them can be (hopefully) reassured.

I know our colleagues are preparing updates to the relevant guide pages at https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/benefits/ but it's not a simple job because the proposed changes are mostly intended to take effect at various points in the future, so we need to make sure what we put out makes a clear distinction between how things work today and how things are proposed to work in the future. 

It's also the case that there's little to nothing that people need to do right now in terms of taking action themselves.

In general terms, it's fine to post on the Forum to seek clarification about how proposed changes might affect you, but it's when that gets mixed in with party-political commentary - or suggestions that the Government ought to do such-and-such - that things get more problematic and posts might have to be removed. 

I wouldn't advise people to do nothing at all. There is a government consultation on the matter which is open until 30th June and I urge everyone to compete it so they can get a wide range of views before making the changes. 

https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/pathways-to-work-reforming-benefits-and-support-to-get-britain-working-green-paper

Many subjects they are not consulting on

• Scrapping the WCA
• Creating a single assessment for PIP and the UC health element
• Freezing the health element of UC until 2029/30
• Only awarding PIP daily living if you get at least one descriptor scoring 4 or more points
• Restarting WCA reassessments until the WCA is scrapped

https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/news/dwp-launches-entirely-bogus-green-paper-consultation

I agree somethings they are not consulting on, but a big one they are.
"11.Should we delay access to the health element of Universal Credit within the reformed system until someone is aged 22?"

If everyone who this effects did the consultation they might get results that make them rethink some of the changes. 

I'm not sure why they don't have a two tiered PIP. Higher for those who get 4 points in one activity and lower for those who get 12 points across them all. Then the Health element of UC is only paid to the higher rated claimants. I'm just thinking that I know many on pip who use the money to facilitate them working and they won't get qualify at all under the new changes so I'm not sure how they will continue to work without it.

Well... we already have two tiered PIP for each component... I actually thought they would just change the benchmark total number of points. They've gone for another simple measure that would at face value (longer term I do wonder)  reduce expenditure in eliminating many DL awards in future that would otherwise have led to awards at either level. The government has particular concern over the high levels of people with regular mental illness claims and many of those would score at low levels across many activities of DL.

LightFlare

This thread has already headed in the direction of “not allowed” - suggest it’s closed

Spoonie_Turtle

HillStreetBlues said:

housebuyer143 said:

MSE_James said:

Pollycat said:

Let's hope that MSE put out a practical down-to-earth explanation soon so that people worrying about the impact on them can be (hopefully) reassured.

I know our colleagues are preparing updates to the relevant guide pages at https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/benefits/ but it's not a simple job because the proposed changes are mostly intended to take effect at various points in the future, so we need to make sure what we put out makes a clear distinction between how things work today and how things are proposed to work in the future. 

It's also the case that there's little to nothing that people need to do right now in terms of taking action themselves.

In general terms, it's fine to post on the Forum to seek clarification about how proposed changes might affect you, but it's when that gets mixed in with party-political commentary - or suggestions that the Government ought to do such-and-such - that things get more problematic and posts might have to be removed. 

I wouldn't advise people to do nothing at all. There is a government consultation on the matter which is open until 30th June and I urge everyone to compete it so they can get a wide range of views before making the changes. 

https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/pathways-to-work-reforming-benefits-and-support-to-get-britain-working-green-paper

Many subjects they are not consulting on

• Scrapping the WCA
• Creating a single assessment for PIP and the UC health element
• Freezing the health element of UC until 2029/30
• Only awarding PIP daily living if you get at least one descriptor scoring 4 or more points
• Restarting WCA reassessments until the WCA is scrapped

https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/news/dwp-launches-entirely-bogus-green-paper-consultation

The charities are fighting back hard, people who want to and have the energy to do something can see what action those and other organisations are asking people to take.

Several measures can only be implemented via legislation so if enough MPs feel the impact will be negative, they have the power to potentially prevent that legislation passing.  (I tried to word that carefully so I hope it's still within the forum rules.)