Double Council Tax!!

jimbog

ReadySteadyPop said:

Flugelhorn said:

TroubledTarts said:

Surely this very small property is band A or Band B so the figures won't be the end of the world?

and if they are too much for the OP then they clearly aren't well off enough to afford a second home and either need to find the extra money somewhere else or sell it 

So that means that if a fireman or nurse working in the big city wants a small bolthole to re-charge in occasionally they could be priced out of this aspiration by councils 

Firefighters and nurses have at least reasonable salaries. What about care workers on poor pay?

FlorayG

I've been reading this thread with interest. I own a small cottage in a holiday town, it's rented out to a local but she's leaving soon and I intend to sell it. I wonder if it will be bought by another local or by someone who wants a second home or even by someone who wants to let it as AirBnB?

jimbog

Just came back from a weekend in Aldeburgh on the east coast of Suffolk. Walking down quaint rows of terraced housing and cottages we counted 2 out of 3 homes with those black key boxes by the front doors (airb&b). The streets were deserted as it was out of season

ReadySteadyPop

Martico said:

ReadySteadyPop said:

Emmia said:

Bookworm105 said:

juliedee4663 said:

You say you own half of a small cottage.  Presumably your boyfriend owns the other half, along with the London property. In which case he owns two properties and should pay the extra council tax. Whose names are on the Deeds? It may not be just as simple as you going to live there if someone else still owns it.

I think OP has given up on this thread after it was derailed by the house price crash brigade.
That said, I took her comment to mean it was a cottage that was in reality a semi-detached property so she owned half of the building. I may be wrong of course.

I think the OP is entitled to own a second property (such things are legal), but can't then also moan about the (legally required) costs of doing so. 

Unfortunately the OP also came across as quite entitled, judging that because they didn't want to live there all the time (because it was too small) that nobody else would.

Their view unfortunately clashes with the moral position which is that second home owners deprive locals of housing, and is the same issue which causes councils in London (and elsewhere) to house people outside of the borough.

High demand = high rents/prices. Properties are bought up by people wanting to let them out as an investment, or people not selling when they move to another property,  for similar reasons - lots of people want to live in London as they work there, but there's a challenge fitting everyone in, so prices go up.

Isn`t it the case that most young people can`t get out of these "Holiday Towns" fast enough to flee to London or Manchester? Places that I love to visit in the LD, PD or NW for example, because they are away from the cities, would be a living hell for a 15 or 16 year old?
A Morrissey song comes to mind, can`t remember the name of it though....

Bigmouth Strikes Again?

This Charming Man?

ReadySteadyPop

FlorayG said:

I've been reading this thread with interest. I own a small cottage in a holiday town, it's rented out to a local but she's leaving soon and I intend to sell it. I wonder if it will be bought by another local or by someone who wants a second home or even by someone who wants to let it as AirBnB?

With a possible recession looming  any interest might be local only?

horsewithnoname

Martico said:

ReadySteadyPop said:

Emmia said:

Bookworm105 said:

juliedee4663 said:

You say you own half of a small cottage.  Presumably your boyfriend owns the other half, along with the London property. In which case he owns two properties and should pay the extra council tax. Whose names are on the Deeds? It may not be just as simple as you going to live there if someone else still owns it.

I think OP has given up on this thread after it was derailed by the house price crash brigade.
That said, I took her comment to mean it was a cottage that was in reality a semi-detached property so she owned half of the building. I may be wrong of course.

I think the OP is entitled to own a second property (such things are legal), but can't then also moan about the (legally required) costs of doing so. 

Unfortunately the OP also came across as quite entitled, judging that because they didn't want to live there all the time (because it was too small) that nobody else would.

Their view unfortunately clashes with the moral position which is that second home owners deprive locals of housing, and is the same issue which causes councils in London (and elsewhere) to house people outside of the borough.

High demand = high rents/prices. Properties are bought up by people wanting to let them out as an investment, or people not selling when they move to another property,  for similar reasons - lots of people want to live in London as they work there, but there's a challenge fitting everyone in, so prices go up.

Isn`t it the case that most young people can`t get out of these "Holiday Towns" fast enough to flee to London or Manchester? Places that I love to visit in the LD, PD or NW for example, because they are away from the cities, would be a living hell for a 15 or 16 year old?
A Morrissey song comes to mind, can`t remember the name of it though....

Bigmouth Strikes Again?

Brilliant 🤩 
Dare say they mean Every Day Is Like Sunday, but yours is much more apt😂

ReadySteadyPop

horsewithnoname said:

Martico said:

ReadySteadyPop said:

Emmia said:

Bookworm105 said:

juliedee4663 said:

You say you own half of a small cottage.  Presumably your boyfriend owns the other half, along with the London property. In which case he owns two properties and should pay the extra council tax. Whose names are on the Deeds? It may not be just as simple as you going to live there if someone else still owns it.

I think OP has given up on this thread after it was derailed by the house price crash brigade.
That said, I took her comment to mean it was a cottage that was in reality a semi-detached property so she owned half of the building. I may be wrong of course.

I think the OP is entitled to own a second property (such things are legal), but can't then also moan about the (legally required) costs of doing so. 

Unfortunately the OP also came across as quite entitled, judging that because they didn't want to live there all the time (because it was too small) that nobody else would.

Their view unfortunately clashes with the moral position which is that second home owners deprive locals of housing, and is the same issue which causes councils in London (and elsewhere) to house people outside of the borough.

High demand = high rents/prices. Properties are bought up by people wanting to let them out as an investment, or people not selling when they move to another property,  for similar reasons - lots of people want to live in London as they work there, but there's a challenge fitting everyone in, so prices go up.

Isn`t it the case that most young people can`t get out of these "Holiday Towns" fast enough to flee to London or Manchester? Places that I love to visit in the LD, PD or NW for example, because they are away from the cities, would be a living hell for a 15 or 16 year old?
A Morrissey song comes to mind, can`t remember the name of it though....

Bigmouth Strikes Again?

Brilliant 🤩 
Dare say they mean Every Day Is Like Sunday, but yours is much more apt😂

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6WEeM7dqLQ#ddg-play

ReadySteadyPop

horsewithnoname said:

Martico said:

ReadySteadyPop said:

Emmia said:

Bookworm105 said:

juliedee4663 said:

You say you own half of a small cottage.  Presumably your boyfriend owns the other half, along with the London property. In which case he owns two properties and should pay the extra council tax. Whose names are on the Deeds? It may not be just as simple as you going to live there if someone else still owns it.

I think OP has given up on this thread after it was derailed by the house price crash brigade.
That said, I took her comment to mean it was a cottage that was in reality a semi-detached property so she owned half of the building. I may be wrong of course.

I think the OP is entitled to own a second property (such things are legal), but can't then also moan about the (legally required) costs of doing so. 

Unfortunately the OP also came across as quite entitled, judging that because they didn't want to live there all the time (because it was too small) that nobody else would.

Their view unfortunately clashes with the moral position which is that second home owners deprive locals of housing, and is the same issue which causes councils in London (and elsewhere) to house people outside of the borough.

High demand = high rents/prices. Properties are bought up by people wanting to let them out as an investment, or people not selling when they move to another property,  for similar reasons - lots of people want to live in London as they work there, but there's a challenge fitting everyone in, so prices go up.

Isn`t it the case that most young people can`t get out of these "Holiday Towns" fast enough to flee to London or Manchester? Places that I love to visit in the LD, PD or NW for example, because they are away from the cities, would be a living hell for a 15 or 16 year old?
A Morrissey song comes to mind, can`t remember the name of it though....

Bigmouth Strikes Again?

Brilliant 🤩 
Dare say they mean Every Day Is Like Sunday, but yours is much more apt😂

I thought more just mildly funny.

TroubledTarts

FlorayG said:

I've been reading this thread with interest. I own a small cottage in a holiday town, it's rented out to a local but she's leaving soon and I intend to sell it. I wonder if it will be bought by another local or by someone who wants a second home or even by someone who wants to let it as AirBnB?

Still seems to be good business in Airbnb in the right areas, a few more hoops to jump through now.

Even when good holiday location properties come up locals can't always afford them (depending on the area)

A company we are staying with in the Cotswolds soon seem to be buying up any property in the village we are going to as their portfolio has tripled in the last few years. No signs of holidaying in popular spots subsiding.

ReadySteadyPop

TroubledTarts said:

FlorayG said:

I've been reading this thread with interest. I own a small cottage in a holiday town, it's rented out to a local but she's leaving soon and I intend to sell it. I wonder if it will be bought by another local or by someone who wants a second home or even by someone who wants to let it as AirBnB?

Still seems to be good business in Airbnb in the right areas, a few more hoops to jump through now.

Even when good holiday location properties come up locals can't always afford them (depending on the area)

A company we are staying with in the Cotswolds soon seem to be buying up any property in the village we are going to as their portfolio has tripled in the last few years. No signs of holidaying in popular spots subsiding.

Things can turn very quickly, if we entered a recession for example, companies like this (how are they viewed by the locals?) will probably go bust relatively fast.