Two part MP3 player question

Emmia

madlyn said:

PRAISETHESUPRAISETHESUN said:

madlyn said:

madlyn said:

Sorry for my ignorance, I'm currently using my phone to listen to music on the go, but want to change to a stand alone device.

Can I ask why?

I've enough apps and other things on my phone and personally would find a seperate device better suits me.

The simple solution would be a phone with just a music player / e.g. Spotify loaded on to it.

That's a thought, but would it still need to be a working phone? as in having some sort of tariff/call plan? especially if I wanted to download music from Spotify or Amazon to listen when flying.

If it's purely for offline use, with music that you own and have copied to the device, then the phone doesn't need a SIM/data plan. You can download any music player app via wifi, and then use it to play your music when you are out and about in exactly the same way as you would a dedicated mp3 player.

 That's a thought, but would it still need to be a working phone? as in having some sort of tariff/call plan? especially if I wanted to download music from Spotify or Amazon to listen when flying.

If it's purely for offline use, with music that you own and have copied to the device, then the phone doesn't need a SIM/data plan. You can download any music player app via wifi, and then use it to play your music when you are out and about in exactly the same way as you would a dedicated mp3 player.

I do have an old phone at home, so I could us that.
But as there is not data or call plan on it, would I still be able to download the Spotify or Amazon music apps?

You'd be able to download and update the apps over WiFi 

PRAISETHESUN

madlyn said:

PRAISETHESUPRAISETHESUN said:

madlyn said:

madlyn said:

Sorry for my ignorance, I'm currently using my phone to listen to music on the go, but want to change to a stand alone device.

Can I ask why?

I've enough apps and other things on my phone and personally would find a seperate device better suits me.

The simple solution would be a phone with just a music player / e.g. Spotify loaded on to it.

That's a thought, but would it still need to be a working phone? as in having some sort of tariff/call plan? especially if I wanted to download music from Spotify or Amazon to listen when flying.

If it's purely for offline use, with music that you own and have copied to the device, then the phone doesn't need a SIM/data plan. You can download any music player app via wifi, and then use it to play your music when you are out and about in exactly the same way as you would a dedicated mp3 player.

 That's a thought, but would it still need to be a working phone? as in having some sort of tariff/call plan? especially if I wanted to download music from Spotify or Amazon to listen when flying.

If it's purely for offline use, with music that you own and have copied to the device, then the phone doesn't need a SIM/data plan. You can download any music player app via wifi, and then use it to play your music when you are out and about in exactly the same way as you would a dedicated mp3 player.

I do have an old phone at home, so I could us that.
But as there is not data or call plan on it, would I still be able to download the Spotify or Amazon music apps?

Yes, but any internet access needs to be using your home wifi network

madlyn

Emmia said:

madlyn said:

PRAISETHESUPRAISETHESUN said:

madlyn said:

madlyn said:

Sorry for my ignorance, I'm currently using my phone to listen to music on the go, but want to change to a stand alone device.

Can I ask why?

I've enough apps and other things on my phone and personally would find a seperate device better suits me.

The simple solution would be a phone with just a music player / e.g. Spotify loaded on to it.

That's a thought, but would it still need to be a working phone? as in having some sort of tariff/call plan? especially if I wanted to download music from Spotify or Amazon to listen when flying.

If it's purely for offline use, with music that you own and have copied to the device, then the phone doesn't need a SIM/data plan. You can download any music player app via wifi, and then use it to play your music when you are out and about in exactly the same way as you would a dedicated mp3 player.

 That's a thought, but would it still need to be a working phone? as in having some sort of tariff/call plan? especially if I wanted to download music from Spotify or Amazon to listen when flying.

If it's purely for offline use, with music that you own and have copied to the device, then the phone doesn't need a SIM/data plan. You can download any music player app via wifi, and then use it to play your music when you are out and about in exactly the same way as you would a dedicated mp3 player.

I do have an old phone at home, so I could us that.
But as there is not data or call plan on it, would I still be able to download the Spotify or Amazon music apps?

You'd be able to download and update the apps over WiFi 

Great, I'll get this sorted, I'll need to look at changing my amazon subscription so music can been downloaded.

madlyn

So I've been chatting to a friend about this and she has told me that when you download music, podcasts etc..
It doesn't actually go onto your phone, it is stored in a cloud (spotify) and all you have running on your phone is the app from where you get the music.
Is this correct and the same for Amazon music?

Emmia

madlyn said:

So I've been chatting to a friend about this and she has told me that when you download music, podcasts etc..
It doesn't actually go onto your phone, it is stored in a cloud (spotify) and all you have running on your phone is the app from where you get the music.
Is this correct and the same for Amazon music?

Spotify allows you to download for offline access via the app

flaneurs_lobster

Not true, it's often described as "making available offline" but it is held locally on the phone. You need the app (Spotify, Amazon Music etc) and an account to play this content, it's normally a function of the paid level of subscription rather than the free one.

It's different from other downloads you might get from a store or elsewhere where you own the download,

madlyn

flaneurs_lobster said:

Not true, it's often described as "making available offline" but it is held locally on the phone. You need the app (Spotify, Amazon Music etc) and an account to play this content, it's normally a function of the paid level of subscription rather than the free one.

It's different from other downloads you might get from a store or elsewhere where you own the download,

I understand I need the app which I'm happy to get, but when I was told that whatever I download to listen to offline is stored in a cloud and not on the phone, I started to change my mind about using a old phone just for this purpose and actually using my everyday phone, as that was my issue, the thought of having music and podcasts stored on my phone and it slowing things down.

Emmia

flaneurs_lobster said:

Not true, it's often described as "making available offline" but it is held locally on the phone. You need the app (Spotify, Amazon Music etc) and an account to play this content, it's normally a function of the paid level of subscription rather than the free one.

It's different from other downloads you might get from a store or elsewhere where you own the download,

It is manifestly true.

The music is held offline in the phone, yes you don't "own" it, it still needs a Spotify/Amazon subscription but if you use Spotify/Amazon at home then it's a single provider with all your music and playlists, podcasts audio books or whatever, which can be updated or synced up when the old SIM free phone is connected to home WiFi.

The alternative is potentially managing two separate sources of music libraries.

400ixl

Your friend is talking rubbish.

If content is downloaded to your device, that is exactly what it it. It is limited by the way it is stored and digital rights to only be usable by that application, but is available offline.

flaneurs_lobster

Emmia said:

flaneurs_lobster said:

Not true,

It is manifestly true.

Sorry, post crossing, was disagreeing with the post above yours. My fault for not quoting what I was referring to.

We agree, downloading stuff is actually downloading stuff.