Can sister use my new octopus mini instead of me

masonic

Bendo said:

How long does it take to register a CAD? Is it longer than 30 mins?

A family member had to wait a few days for a new IHD to start working after it was replaced by an engineer during a visit.

Bendo

masonic said:

Bendo said:

How long does it take to register a CAD? Is it longer than 30 mins?

A family member had to wait a few days for a new IHD to start working after it was replaced by an engineer during a visit.

But is that a technical time limitation or simply a limitation of how it was done, e.g. "engineer" swaps the device and calls / messages the supplier who eventually get around to doing the registration, versus a potentially fully automated system that sould send the details on to the meter once it has them.

masonic

Bendo said:

masonic said:

Bendo said:

How long does it take to register a CAD? Is it longer than 30 mins?

A family member had to wait a few days for a new IHD to start working after it was replaced by an engineer during a visit.

But is that a technical time limitation or simply a limitation of how it was done, e.g. "engineer" swaps the device and calls / messages the supplier who eventually get around to doing the registration, versus a potentially fully automated system that sould send the details on to the meter once it has them.

Could indeed be supplier limitation rather than system limitation. Same as the limitation of pulling HH reads only once a day when other service users do so more regularly.

MWT

FreeBear said:

MWT said:

t0rt0ise said:

It's registered before it arrives with you. It won't work for your sister.

This is not correct, any Octopus customer with a compatible meter can use it, but not all meters are compatible, so it is worth trying it, but no guarantee it will work.

Nope. The Home Mini will be paired to the OPs meter, and will only connect to that one.

If the sister wanted to use it with her meter, she would need Octopus to pair it to her meter - It is not something she would be able to do on her own.

I can only tell you that Octopus confirmed some time ago on their own forum that the Home Mini is not delivered pre-paired, it is handled during the initial user installation process...

The only risk is that the meter or even just the firmware on the meter may not be compatible if you pass it to someone else, as they do check the meter/firmware before sending them out.

Bendo

MWT said:

FreeBear said:

MWT said:

t0rt0ise said:

It's registered before it arrives with you. It won't work for your sister.

This is not correct, any Octopus customer with a compatible meter can use it, but not all meters are compatible, so it is worth trying it, but no guarantee it will work.

Nope. The Home Mini will be paired to the OPs meter, and will only connect to that one.

If the sister wanted to use it with her meter, she would need Octopus to pair it to her meter - It is not something she would be able to do on her own.

I can only tell you that Octopus confirmed some time ago on their own forum that the Home Mini is not delivered pre-paired, it is handled during the initial user installation process...

The only risk is that the meter or even just the firmware on the meter may not be compatible if you pass it to someone else, as they do check the meter/firmware before sending them out.

That makes sense and is how I would have expected them to do it. Pre pairing just adds extra complications and additional manual overhead which ultimately costs off the bottom line.

I expect there are probably two varients, one for SMETS1 and one for SMETS2, that seems to be what other suppliers of CAD devices have to do.

masonic

Either way, it looks like the OP would not be able to simply factory reset and pass along without contacting Octopus:

https://octopus.energy/octopus-home-mini-faq/#ohmfaqs

Probably cannot be paired with a second meter without this step.

MWT

masonic said:

Either way, it looks like the OP would not be able to simply factory reset and pass along without contacting Octopus:

The OP has not yet paired it with his meter, so should be fine to just pass along...

mark25810

FreeBear said:

MWT said:

t0rt0ise said:

It's registered before it arrives with you. It won't work for your sister.

This is not correct, any Octopus customer with a compatible meter can use it, but not all meters are compatible, so it is worth trying it, but no guarantee it will work.

Nope. The Home Mini will be paired to the OPs meter, and will only connect to that one.

If the sister wanted to use it with her meter, she would need Octopus to pair it to her meter - It is not something she would be able to do on her own.

Actually i found you are wrong. Octopus replied and said my sister and anyone else on octopus can use it as its not set up to anyones home at all till the person sets it up themselves via the instructions 

mark25810

UPDATE 

For all who say you can not octopus replied and told me anyone on octopus can use it as they do not register or set it up at all before they ship it to people 

So if if its a new unused one anyone can use it as its not registered or setup at all untill whoever has it installs it via instructions given in the box

MWT

mark25810 said:

UPDATE 

For all who say you can not octopus replied and told me anyone on octopus can use it as they do not register or set it up at all before they ship it to people 

So if if its a new unused one anyone can use it as its not registered or setup at all untill whoever has it installs it via instructions given in the box

No surprise for me at least

... only caveat though, as I mentioned earlier, is that there may be some meters/firmware out there which are not compatible, but otherwise it should be fine...