Fixtures & Fittings form

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HillStreetBlues said:

AskAsk said:

 i just want to know if i would be legally obliged to provide a working dishwasher if it is include on the fixtures form.

Yes, as it doesn't wash dishes, it's a broken machine, so a misrepresentation.

this makes more sense than all the morals answers.  people aren't moral when it comes to property transactions.

i would be happy to pay for the removal cost that the buyer incur by having to get rid of the machine, but it would be expensive if i am obligated to provide a working machine because it is listed as included on the fixture forms.

Olinda99

yes a reasonable person would assume it was a working dishwasher

that said, when they move in and find it broken there is probably not a lot they can do

EssexHebridean

You do realise that it is possible to behave in a morally good way when buying and selling? Aligning yourself with the highest common denominator in life, rather than the lowest, is never a bad thing! If everyone chose to behave well, then the whole property market would be a much nicer place. 

I appreciate that you were asking about legalities not morals, however your own wording from the start on this underlined that you were fully aware this would be poor behaviour. 

user1977

Why not just fix it and avoid all the legal/moral dilemmas? What's actually wrong with it?

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user1977 said:

Why not just fix it and avoid all the legal/moral dilemmas? What's actually wrong with it?

to be honest, i don't know.  it hasn't been used by our tenants who have been there for 10 years, so i just have a faint recollection that it is broke, but it may very well be working for all I know!  i can't remember.

it was disconnected last year because there was leak in the dishwasher pipe.

getting rid of it myself would be a better option than fixing an old dishwasher.

@user1977 - update, hey, thanks for this comment as it has made me check my emails and there is no record of the tenants saying the dishwasher doesn't work, which they would do if it broke, so i think they just didn't use it and it is probably still working.

Tabieth

people aren't moral when it comes to property transactions.

Some people are immoral, sure. But not all. And using that as an excuse to behave badly is a race to the bottom. 

Whatever. Get it fixed, get it removed, list it on the F&F as broken. If you list it and pretend it’s working you’re behaving poorly. I don’t know the legal implications but I hope the karma comes right back at ya.