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fazrewards
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Hi guys,

Hope you are well.

Just to give a background to this. I parked for about 5-10mins and got a parking notice through the post. Ignored it for last 6 months but last week got the claim form. I have acknowledged it by following the newbie thread, so means I have another period of time. In terms of incident they have sent me a picture of the car parked and the signs is a cardboard cut out which is difficult to see. The issue was i parked at 8am that meant i got 'fine' but there is no information i can see on the sign to suggest i should get a f'ine'. Also it is a fast food restaurant so it is fine to park at 12pm when it opens and you will not get a 'fine'.

The particulars of claim is the driver parked in breach of the terms of the parking stipulated on the signage of the contract thus incurring the parking the PCN. Claimant claims for £100 for PCN and £70 contractual costs. Overall amount is £262.05.

This is the template I have put together using the newbie thread, would appreciate any feedback before emailing it to ClaimResponses.CNBC@justice.gov.uk.

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  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,296 Forumite
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    Your thread title mentions 'template'.
    Where did you find that template? It is nothing like any template I've seen on this forum. It even has a well out of date statement of truth at the foot.

    What is the Issue Date on your Claim Form?

    Can you please show us a picture of the Particulars of Claim - with all your personal detail hidden of course.

    Have you filed an Acknowledgment of Service?
    If so, upon what date did you do so?
    Your MCOL Claim History will have the definitive answer to that.

    Oh, and there is no 's' in the word Defence.
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 150,096 Forumite
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    edited 13 February at 2:11AM
    That is a really old defence and I've no idea where you found it. Delete it please in case another new poster thinks that's how to defend.

    Please answer Keith's questions and show us the POC, covering the VRM. If you don't know what to show or cover up please just read half a dozen claim threads by the same solicitor. Which solicitor firm?
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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  • fazrewards
    fazrewards Posts: 56 Forumite
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    Thanks i ran this from a template found and modified it via chatgpt so probably why it is lot older. I have removed it based on coupon-mod request.

    I have put in the Acknowledge service on 12th February. Please see attached the claim form, any advice would be appreciated. 


  • fazrewards
    fazrewards Posts: 56 Forumite
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    This is the sign at the resturant
  • 1505grandad
    1505grandad Posts: 3,737 Forumite
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    Just saying fwiw  -  claim issued by PPE Ltd ( a company)  -  sign says managed by WW t/a PPL (a sole trader)
    Apologies for the quality of the screenshots.



    Oh dear  -  adherd....



  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,296 Forumite
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    Can you please show us again the Particulars of Claim from your Claim Form, but this time with more detail.
    I.e. the only thing to hide is the vehicle's registration mark.

    With a Claim Issue Date of 5th February, and having filed an Acknowledgment of Service('AOS') in a timely manner, you have until 4pm on Monday 10th March 2025 to file a Defence.

    That's over three weeks away. Plenty of time to produce a Defence but please don't leave it to the last minute.
    To create a Defence, and then file a Defence by email, look at the second post in the NEWBIES thread.
    Don't miss the deadline for filing a Defence.

    Do not try and file a Defence via the MoneyClaimOnline website. Once an AOS has been filed, the MCOL website should be treated as 'read only'.
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 150,096 Forumite
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    edited 13 February at 11:20PM
    Just saying fwiw  -  claim issued by PPE Ltd ( a company)  -  sign says managed by WW t/a PPL (a sole trader)
    Apologies for the quality of the screenshots.



    Good spot!  Important (silver bullet potential) Needs to be added to the defence.

    Oh dear  -  "adherd"

    LOL! He can't string a coherent written sentence together can he...!

    @fazrewards
    ...which solicitor. Gladstones? BW Legal?
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  • Le_Kirk
    Le_Kirk Posts: 24,290 Forumite
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    Thanks i ran this from a template found and modified it via chatgpt so probably why it is lot older. I have removed it based on coupon-mod @Coupon-mad's request.
    Please don't use ChatGPT - it isn't required and will produce gibberish such as starting letters with "I hope this letter finds you in good health" or similar poppycock.  Just follow and use the advice given on this forum.
  • fazrewards
    fazrewards Posts: 56 Forumite
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    KeithP said:
    Can you please show us again the Particulars of Claim from your Claim Form, but this time with more detail.
    I.e. the only thing to hide is the vehicle's registration mark.

    With a Claim Issue Date of 5th February, and having filed an Acknowledgment of Service('AOS') in a timely manner, you have until 4pm on Monday 10th March 2025 to file a Defence.

    That's over three weeks away. Plenty of time to produce a Defence but please don't leave it to the last minute.
    To create a Defence, and then file a Defence by email, look at the second post in the NEWBIES thread.
    Don't miss the deadline for filing a Defence.

    Do not try and file a Defence via the MoneyClaimOnline website. Once an AOS has been filed, the MCOL website should be treated as 'read only'.
    I have just amended this and yes it is gladstones
  • Le_Kirk
    Le_Kirk Posts: 24,290 Forumite
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    As they seem to have provided sparse particulars of claim (assuming there is nothing of import under your redaction) you can use the amended defence, often called the @hharry100 defence and utilise the Chan & Akande judgments - see here: -
    15 August 2024 am31 9:33AM <<<LINK
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