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Accidental damage

s1mple
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Hi all, I need some advice ,if possible, I was playing pool in a pub, and, when I started the game the cue ball ricocheted off and into the nearby TV. The TV was damaged therefore was unwatchable. The pub managers seem to think I should pay for a replacement, and although I was responsible it was an accident. I feel they should claim on their insurance. Any advice would be gratefully received.
Regards
Simon.
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Simon.
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Really depends upon the exact circumstances, pub isn't entitled to a new TV, rather the depreciated value depending upon it's age.
Is this a pub you'd like to go to again (i.e local you visit regularly), if so pragmatically paying towards the TV will mean you can go back there.
If you aren't ever going back you could ask the pub if they have a risk assessment for the placement of the TV, especially in close proximity to the pool table, they might give up if you are difficult.
Ultimately without a name and address I don't think they can recover via the courts.
I don't believe this falls within the remit of criminal damage and I'd hazard a guess the police would probably say it's a civil mater.
Other than that your moral compass may guide you, morals are subjective so mine are of no consequence to yoursIn the game of chess you can never let your adversary see your pieces2 -
s1mple said:Hi all, I need some advice ,if possible, I was playing pool in a pub, and, when I started the game the cue ball ricocheted off and into the nearby TV. The TV was damaged therefore was unwatchable. The pub managers seem to think I should pay for a replacement, and although I was responsible it was an accident. I feel they should claim on their insurance. Any advice would be gratefully received.Could this accident be foreseen, was the TV too close to the pool table?Not sure about this one.1
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How close and at what height was the TV? I can understand balls leaving the table and falling a short distance away, this sounds like a bit more energy was involved...2
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Hi all, thanks for the quick responses,
Lunatic: yes it is a pub Id like to revisit and I agree it seems like a civil matter.
Baldy: this has actually occurred before but the TV wasn't a write off, so I guess some for of protection could have been put into place.
User: I did put some wellie into the break in all honesty. If the table was facing E-W instead of N-S it might have been avoided.
Many Thanks
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s1mple said:
Lunatic: yes it is a pub Id like to revisit
If the one you buy comes with the remote you may very well get a few quid back selling the remote on eBay.
If the pub had a brand new 5 grand TV you're obviously less likely to be lucky so hopefully it's just a bog standard TV.In the game of chess you can never let your adversary see your pieces2 -
You could also offer to split the cost of a new TV, with the pub paying the majority of the cost to reflect that they can't expect a new TV to replace an old one, and if the accident was forseeable, then sharing the part of the cost that you both responsible for would be fair. You should be paying no more than 25% of the cost of a new TV. Offering to pay something, but setting out why you aren't offering to pay for a new TV in its entirety should indicate that you are trying to reasonable.The comments I post are my personal opinion. While I try to check everything is correct before posting, I can and do make mistakes, so always try to check official information sources before relying on my posts.1
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Thank you tacpot I think that is well considered and very fair point.
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Who owns the TV?
Owned by the licensee, a pub management group (such as the Spirit Group, Wetherspoons, etc.) or leased to the premises by an entertainment company like TVC Technology Solutions?
That makes a lot of difference.0 -
s1mple said:Hi all, thanks for the quick responses,
Lunatic: yes it is a pub Id like to revisit and I agree it seems like a civil matter.
Baldy: this has actually occurred before but the TV wasn't a write off, so I guess some for of protection could have been put into place.
User: I did put some wellie into the break in all honesty. If the table was facing E-W instead of N-S it might have been avoided.
Many Thanks
Simon
It's happened before, and the pub have done NOTHING to prevent it happening again which is negligence. You can buy TV guards for this exact purpose!
But... as you want to drink in this pub again, then they are likely to bar you for refusing to pay so you're going to have to tread carefully here. Or perhaps they'll still bar you even if you do pay?!?
What happened when it got damaged last time?
They really should be claiming on their insurance, but the fact that they won't indicates that due to the previous incident, the insurance won't pay out perhaps.Should've = Should HAVE (not 'of')
Would've = Would HAVE (not 'of')
No, I am not perfect, but yes I do judge people on their use of basic English language. If you didn't know the above, then learn it! (If English is your second language, then you are forgiven!)0 -
pinkshoes said:s1mple said:Hi all, thanks for the quick responses,
Lunatic: yes it is a pub Id like to revisit and I agree it seems like a civil matter.
Baldy: this has actually occurred before but the TV wasn't a write off, so I guess some for of protection could have been put into place.
User: I did put some wellie into the break in all honesty. If the table was facing E-W instead of N-S it might have been avoided.
Many Thanks
Simon
It's happened before, and the pub have done NOTHING to prevent it happening again which is negligence. You can buy TV guards for this exact purpose!
But... as you want to drink in this pub again, then they are likely to bar you for refusing to pay so you're going to have to tread carefully here. Or perhaps they'll still bar you even if you do pay?!?
What happened when it got damaged last time?
They really should be claiming on their insurance, but the fact that they won't indicates that due to the previous incident, the insurance won't pay out perhaps.0
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