Penalty Charge BP Stansted Parked on Yellow Lines with Trailer Advice

Broken_sunflower

I'm just (over)thinking further on this.

Date of contravention: Saturday 4th January
Date of issue: Thursday 16th January
Date received: Tuesday 21st January

Could I appeal to POPLA based on this being over the relevent period as defined in Paragraph 9(4) of PoFA?

Sorry for continuing to question.

Gr1pr

Check the back of the NTK PCN letter to see if the Pofa warning paragraph is there, or not

Secondly, if he admitted to being the driver then Pofa2012 went into the nearest bin

Broken_sunflower

Having checked against the NTK thread, it matches the the POFA letter example.

Broken_sunflower

Ok.

Final thing, if there was no other suitable space for him to park considering his total length (:|) then this has no basis for appeal either?

So ultimately, the only way you can ever have a successful appeal is if they don't know who the driver is?

Gr1pr

No, various legal arguments exist,  Pofa2012 is only one of them , plenty of others,  but Pofa2012 and no keeper liability can be one of the best appeal points,  especially for a non driving keeper,  not so much for drivers,  especially not for admitted drivers

He can complain about the lack of suitable parking to the landowner,  but the parking company just enforce the rules as they see fit in an unregulated industry 

Yes it's a complicated topic, but veteran volunteers are giving you advice,  but given that regulation is arriving this year,  its a bit late to try to cram the old information in

Plenty of people win on poor signage,  no landowner authority,  poor legal pleading by claimants and their lawyers,  many cases dont even reach a courtroom 

Broken_sunflower

Ok, thank you. I'm really not trying to be difficult, so sorry if it's coming across that way.

This is a topic I am only learning about today and trying to come out with a strong appeal.

So, as per the advice, I just ignore the letters and wait for a court summons.

Really, really appreciate your help and sorry again. 

Gr1pr

There is no valid appeal,  not to popla,  popla are likely to rule that the pcn was correctly issued,  meaning that only a court case can determine the outcome based on all the factors involved 

There definitely will NOT be a court summons,  because its not a criminal matter,  it's a civil dispute 

Any complaints about the lack of longer and possibly wider bays for larger vehicles should go to the landowner or managing agents 

paulstevens64

Mr Last,


To quote the OP in their first post:

"His appeal was rejected pretty much instantly and I'm sure he admitted to driving "

Broken_sunflower

@ldast thank you for the lesson. I simply do understandan. 

Broken_sunflower

In other news…today I received a refund from Parkingeye for a parking charge I paid in November. I sent an email today to the hotel I had parked in to complain about the charge I received for overstaying by 15 minutes. They contacted Parkingeye and instructed them to refund me.