Moorside Legal, Court hearing imminent, July 4 2025 (RCP)

Coupon-mad

I can't see those, probs because my iCloud photo storage is full and needs extending!

bartos1976

Coupon-mad said:

I can't see those, probs because my iCloud photo storage is full and needs extending!

No worries, let’s try Dropbox as I can’t upload direct 

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/6wwn22lkcqb3vglbyiget/AC_ADRDwnn1LFaBwqUWT5ro?rlkey=9510p3ere3b0n3p70x9urracf&st=fmvsssx4&dl=0

Coupon-mad

OK, so have this in your crib sheet notes for the hearing:

- their own evidence shows there is no entrance sign at all, confirming the evidence in the defence WS.

- they've included a mock-up picture of an entrance P sign (see BPA Code of Practice version applicable in 2023 - an entrance sign is mandatory) but it isn't on site.

- there's just one single set of signs beside the graffiti on the left; only one with t&cs, despite the size of the car park and how busy Google Streetview shows it to be. No other signs are evidenced anywhere.

- This is why entrance signs are crucial to put drivers 'on notice' that this is private land and to read the terms on signs inside. All it would need to fully obscure that sign is one van reverse-parked up to it.

- RCP are also in further breach of their Trade body Code of Practice because there is no BPA or IPC Roundel on any sign. That is also mandatory in the Code of Practice (which is more than just guidance, it is the basis of DVLA release of data and it was stated by the Supreme Court in ParkingEye v Beavis to be effectively regulatory).

bartos1976

Thanks, I will. I think I need to read a bit in terms of how it’s structured and what responsibilities are on me now don’t I? 

bartos1976

Coupon-mad said:

OK, so have this in your crib sheet notes for the hearing:

- their own evidence shows there is no entrance sign at all, confirming the evidence in the defence WS.

- they've included a mock-up picture of an entrance P sign (see BPA Code of Practice version applicable in 2023 - an entrance sign is mandatory) but it isn't on site.

- there's just one single set of signs beside the graffiti on the left; only one with t&cs, despite the size of the car park and how busy Google Streetview shows it to be. No other signs are evidenced anywhere.

- This is why entrance signs are crucial to put drivers 'on notice' that this is private land and to read the terms on signs inside. All it would need to fully obscure that sign is one van reverse-parked up to it.

- RCP are also in further breach of their Trade body Code of Practice because there is no BPA or IPC Roundel on any sign. That is also mandatory in the Code of Practice (which is more than just guidance, it is the basis of DVLA release of data and it was stated by the Supreme Court in ParkingEye v Beavis to be effectively regulatory).

Got all this on my A4 printed sheet alongside both sets of WS and evidence for tomorrow morning

Not clear on how these things go in terms of structure or format so if anyone has any tips or information that would be good?

Can i speak up relation to these points at a time i feel it is appropriate or will i be asked if there's anything in their evidence i want to address? Oh, do i have to talk through my WS or do any opening speech or anything?

Coupon-mad

The judge will guide you.

bartos1976

Just arrived, based on their communications and how quiet it feels a I don’t think they’re coming in person 

bartos1976

Another one bites the dust Over in minutes as they failed to evidence they’d issued charge notice 

Dismissed 

Thanks so much to everyone, in particular @Coupon-mad , you’re truly amazing 

Umkomaas

bartos1976 said:

Another one bites the dust Over in minutes as they failed to evidence they’d issued charge notice 

Dismissed 

Thanks so much to everyone, in particular @Coupon-mad , you’re truly amazing 

Well done, good news. Did you get your costs awarded?

bartos1976

Umkomaas said:

bartos1976 said:

Another one bites the dust Over in minutes as they failed to evidence they’d issued charge notice 

Dismissed 

Thanks so much to everyone, in particular @Coupon-mad , you’re truly amazing 

Well done, good news. Did you get your costs awarded?

Yes, max £95 plus £5.70 to park in another of their managed car parks