Will a washing machine go in this kitchen?

A0911

Thinking of buying this house. Previous owners installed a new kitchen just before selling to current owner, who has done mainly short-term lets with it, so I don't think there's ever been a washing machine in there.

Listing and current owner say there is space and plumbing at the back under the counter, but surely one won't go there with the radiator where it is?

Wish I'd taken a measuring tape. I won't get a second viewing because it will be sold by Monday afternoon.

If a washing machine wouldn't go there, what are my other options? The two spaces either side closest to the photographer are occupied by a cooker and fridge. There's no room behind the photographer.

comeandgo

Is there space in the bathroom for a washing machine?  

A0911

comeandgo said:

Is there space in the bathroom for a washing machine?  

No, none at all. Nor the cellar really.

teaselMay

If you're buying rather than renting you could rearrange the cupboards if one doesn't fit. Perhaps under the left side of the sink and then move that cupboard along one. (edit actually relooking at the photo it can't just move along one) I personally wouldn't put a washing machine in front of a radiator, aside from the heat and space effects, if and when it walks a little on the floor it'll suddenly make a hell of a racket banging the radiator!

If you otherwise love it I'd work on the basis that the kitchen units need rearranging and factor that into your budget.

I don't think the radiator will be very effective at all where it is, and so you may want to just get that removed which will help with cupboard and machine positioning.

ThisIsWeird

A0911 said:

Thinking of buying this house. Previous owners installed a new kitchen just before selling to current owner, who has done mainly short-term lets with it, so I don't think there's ever been a washing machine in there.

Listing and current owner say there is space and plumbing at the back under the counter, but surely one won't go there with the radiator where it is?

Wish I'd taken a measuring tape. I won't get a second viewing because it will be sold by Monday afternoon.

If a washing machine wouldn't go there, what are my other options? The two spaces either side closest to the photographer are occupied by a cooker and fridge. There's no room behind the photographer.

CT

This kitchen looks open to the adjacent room? Which room is this - a reception room heated to a living temp, or is it a cooler hallway?
If the former, then I'd suggest that the kitchen rad isn't at all needed, so can be removed. Or, if you do need it, replace it with a plinth heater along there. Then fill that area with base unit storage of some sort, either with matching doors, or even open basket shelves.
I'd then fit a built in oven with hob above on the RH run, opposite the sink. Hood required, so wall unit needs to move.
W/M under extra w'top to the left of the sink; colour-match the top - the exact one should be readily available - sealing the joint with 'colorfill' - should be nigh on invisible - or even a contrasting oak slab, with 2 or 3 matching open oak shelves above with all your colourful storage jars, spices, even your crockery - define it as your food prep area. 
Fridge opposite as before.
Q - that end run of w'top, how deep is it?

elsien

Where have they got the washing machine at the moment?

ThisIsWeird

elsien said:

Where have they got the washing machine at the moment?

They don't - it's a new kitchen.
They claim it'll go under the top where the rad is...

elsien

Just wondered if it was currently shoved elsewhere, because it’s unusual for someone not to have a washing machine at all. Sibling has his in a cupboard in the hall off the bathroom.

Emmia

I'm not sure about that whole installation - it looks like an office kitchen where people just wash up coffee mugs or a glorified utility room, (but minus the expected washing machine).

If it were me, I'd be budgeting ripping that all out (I don't care if it's "new") and installing a kitchen to accommodate a washing machine, oven, hob (where are they?) fridge/freezer...

grumpy_codger

Emmia said:

If it were me, I'd be budgeting ripping that all out (I don't care if it's "new") and installing a kitchen to accommodate a washing machine, oven, hob (where are they?) fridge/freezer...

My thoughts exactly, although some units can be reused, especially if the brand is known. And, to make this small space more functional, the radiator needs relocating. It's worth thinking about placing it next to the external (?) door - either a narrow and tall one or, possibly even better, perpendicularly to the wall and along the side of a base cabinet. E.g.

Another option is a plinth heater, preferably CH. And, of course, the ultimate option is water underfloor heating.

FreeBear

ThisIsWeird said:

elsien said:

Where have they got the washing machine at the moment?

They don't - it's a new kitchen.
They claim it'll go under the top where the rad is...

Putting anything in front of a radiator will stop heat being radiated out in to the room. Blocking off airflow around & above with the worktop will prevent heat circulating by way of convection -Who ever decided to put a radiator there needs taking outside to have a wet kipper applied to the back of the head. The same goes for what ever muppet fixed the double socket to the end of the units. And it that is a standard 600mm worktop, yes a WM will fit in the space, but it will stick out a long way.

The sensible solution, and probably the only viable one if you want to heat the kitchen, is to plumb in a plinth heater. Possibly extend the CH pipework under the sink unit if there is electricity on that side... Two things to watch out for with plinth heaters - The ∆T across flow & return needs to be 5°C to 10°C to be effective subject to actual flow temperature. Vinyl wrap doors directly in the air flow will delaminate over time, particularly if they are cheap ones.

Emmia said: If it were me, I'd be budgeting ripping that all out (I don't care if it's "new") and installing a kitchen to accommodate a washing machine, oven, hob (where are they?) fridge/freezer...

And don't forget an extractor hood venting to the outside - Building Regs Part F requirement for any kitchen refurbishment.