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Hargreaves-Lansdowne ISA
HenryPaul1960
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On 14th Jan 2025 300 shares were automatically sold from my holding of PHGP (WisdomTree Physical Gold
This in response to a Stop-Loss that I had set in the ISA at a price of 20100.00
The shares were sold at a price of 18364.00 (would have been a loss of £6k approx) and although that this was subsequently amended (after my complaint) to 20149.00 the net result was that I have sold shares that I did not want to sell at an initial loss of £900 to the market price
Today the shares stand at 20700 bringing the nominal loss to £1800
What triggered the sale was explained to me as "gapping"! An ETF is apparantly vulnerable to market price dropping while the market is closed??
My query is simply - How did the price drop due to "gapping" during working hours? Does the market close at Lunchtime?
This in response to a Stop-Loss that I had set in the ISA at a price of 20100.00
The shares were sold at a price of 18364.00 (would have been a loss of £6k approx) and although that this was subsequently amended (after my complaint) to 20149.00 the net result was that I have sold shares that I did not want to sell at an initial loss of £900 to the market price
Today the shares stand at 20700 bringing the nominal loss to £1800
What triggered the sale was explained to me as "gapping"! An ETF is apparantly vulnerable to market price dropping while the market is closed??
My query is simply - How did the price drop due to "gapping" during working hours? Does the market close at Lunchtime?
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Yes, there's 12pm auction but prices can lurch around at any time. It could be there was a massive sell order or some piece of news moved the price for gold. This is one of the risks with stop loss orders, that you might get a lower price than what you'd intended.HenryPaul1960 said:On 14th Jan 2025 300 shares were automatically sold from my holding of PHGP (WisdomTree Physical Gold
This in response to a Stop-Loss that I had set in the ISA at a price of 20100.00
The shares were sold at a price of 18364.00 (would have been a loss of £6k approx) and although that this was subsequently amended (after my complaint) to 20149.00 the net result was that I have sold shares that I did not want to sell at an initial loss of £900 to the market price
Today the shares stand at 20700 bringing the nominal loss to £1800
What triggered the sale was explained to me as "gapping"! An ETF is apparantly vulnerable to market price dropping while the market is closed??
My query is simply - How did the price drop due to "gapping" during working hours? Does the market close at Lunchtime?3 -
You've discovered the fundamental flaw in relying on a Stop-Loss. During the trading session market prices for individual stocks can rapidly bounce around. Although the final net movement for the day can ultimately be minimal. The Stop-Loss is automatically triggered by default immediately the price falls below. Not a tool to use without carefull monitoring in my experience. Certainly not normally a leave and forget trade.2
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Build an investment strategy where you have enough confidence in the long term value of the assets you own to never need a stop loss.2
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Appreciate the commentary - Every day's a schoolday!
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