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  • Richardi843
    Richardi843 Posts: 10 Forumite
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    FlorayG said:
    FlorayG said:
    FlorayG said:
    When a new gas boiler is installed the installer registers it with Gas Safe and supplies a Gas Safe Compliance Certificate to the LL. The LL should send you a copy of this and it covers the new boiler for 12 months until the first service is due. So you will be due a service and gas safe check in April anyway.
    Also, your LL is not 'kindly allowing you to stay'. This is your home and if he wants you to leave and issues a S21 notice he's already unable to enforce it because he doesn't have all the required documents ( gas safe) supplied, so if you don't yet have anywhere to go he can't evict you. Just bear this in mind when the day arrives if you don't have anywhere to go
    I asked for a rent reduction as we have to keep the place tidy and go out for viewings 
    No you don't. This is your home, he can't force you to go out while he has strangers wandering around the house.
    Also you are quite right, nobody is going to offer while a tenant is in the house, it could take 6-8 months to get you out
    The LL isn’t selling, he just wants more rent. The agent admitted he’s putting it on for 4 weeks then it is to be let out again. 
    Please explain this. In the first post you say he wants to sell and further on that there are 'viewings'
    The agent said he’s selling it but has just admitted the plan is to put it up for rent at a significantly higher price after 4 weeks of being for sale. I assume the fake sale is to get us out so the rent can go up as the pictures were taken with a mobile phone and no one has valued the property. 
  • FlorayG
    FlorayG Posts: 2,208 Forumite
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    Well then I suggest you hang on because in the new Renter's Rights Bill if a LL evicts a tenant because the LL has intention to sell then they can't let it again within 12 months...LL probably has heard that so wants you out before that becomes law.
    Has the LL spoken with you about increasing your rent? Could you afford it? Because currently he can increase to market rent and you either pay it or YOU give notice and move to somewhere cheaper. This seems a particularly complicated and unnecessary way to get more income from the property
  • Richardi843
    Richardi843 Posts: 10 Forumite
    First Post
    FlorayG said:
    FlorayG said:
    FlorayG said:
    When a new gas boiler is installed the installer registers it with Gas Safe and supplies a Gas Safe Compliance Certificate to the LL. The LL should send you a copy of this and it covers the new boiler for 12 months until the first service is due. So you will be due a service and gas safe check in April anyway.
    Also, your LL is not 'kindly allowing you to stay'. This is your home and if he wants you to leave and issues a S21 notice he's already unable to enforce it because he doesn't have all the required documents ( gas safe) supplied, so if you don't yet have anywhere to go he can't evict you. Just bear this in mind when the day arrives if you don't have anywhere to go
    I asked for a rent reduction as we have to keep the place tidy and go out for viewings 
    No you don't. This is your home, he can't force you to go out while he has strangers wandering around the house.
    Also you are quite right, nobody is going to offer while a tenant is in the house, it could take 6-8 months to get you out
    The LL isn’t selling, he just wants more rent. The agent admitted he’s putting it on for 4 weeks then it is to be let out again. 
    Please explain this. In the first post you say he wants to sell and further on that there are 'viewings'
    We aren’t sure if there have been any viewings taken place as we allowed agent 2 hours per week for viewings that we wouldn’t be there. 
  • FlorayG
    FlorayG Posts: 2,208 Forumite
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    FlorayG said:
    FlorayG said:
    FlorayG said:
    When a new gas boiler is installed the installer registers it with Gas Safe and supplies a Gas Safe Compliance Certificate to the LL. The LL should send you a copy of this and it covers the new boiler for 12 months until the first service is due. So you will be due a service and gas safe check in April anyway.
    Also, your LL is not 'kindly allowing you to stay'. This is your home and if he wants you to leave and issues a S21 notice he's already unable to enforce it because he doesn't have all the required documents ( gas safe) supplied, so if you don't yet have anywhere to go he can't evict you. Just bear this in mind when the day arrives if you don't have anywhere to go
    I asked for a rent reduction as we have to keep the place tidy and go out for viewings 
    No you don't. This is your home, he can't force you to go out while he has strangers wandering around the house.
    Also you are quite right, nobody is going to offer while a tenant is in the house, it could take 6-8 months to get you out
    The LL isn’t selling, he just wants more rent. The agent admitted he’s putting it on for 4 weeks then it is to be let out again. 
    Please explain this. In the first post you say he wants to sell and further on that there are 'viewings'
    We aren’t sure if there have been any viewings taken place as we allowed agent 2 hours per week for viewings that we wouldn’t be there. 
    You let an agent show your home to strangers while you are not in? That's very accommodating of you I certainly wouldn't agree to that
  • marcia_
    marcia_ Posts: 3,407 Forumite
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    FlorayG said:
    FlorayG said:
    FlorayG said:
    FlorayG said:
    When a new gas boiler is installed the installer registers it with Gas Safe and supplies a Gas Safe Compliance Certificate to the LL. The LL should send you a copy of this and it covers the new boiler for 12 months until the first service is due. So you will be due a service and gas safe check in April anyway.
    Also, your LL is not 'kindly allowing you to stay'. This is your home and if he wants you to leave and issues a S21 notice he's already unable to enforce it because he doesn't have all the required documents ( gas safe) supplied, so if you don't yet have anywhere to go he can't evict you. Just bear this in mind when the day arrives if you don't have anywhere to go
    I asked for a rent reduction as we have to keep the place tidy and go out for viewings 
    No you don't. This is your home, he can't force you to go out while he has strangers wandering around the house.
    Also you are quite right, nobody is going to offer while a tenant is in the house, it could take 6-8 months to get you out
    The LL isn’t selling, he just wants more rent. The agent admitted he’s putting it on for 4 weeks then it is to be let out again. 
    Please explain this. In the first post you say he wants to sell and further on that there are 'viewings'
    We aren’t sure if there have been any viewings taken place as we allowed agent 2 hours per week for viewings that we wouldn’t be there. 
    You let an agent show your home to strangers while you are not in? That's very accommodating of you I certainly wouldn't agree to that
     Same I would never agree to strangers snooping around my home whilst i wasn't there. 
  • Richardi843
    Richardi843 Posts: 10 Forumite
    First Post
    FlorayG said:
    FlorayG said:
    FlorayG said:
    FlorayG said:
    When a new gas boiler is installed the installer registers it with Gas Safe and supplies a Gas Safe Compliance Certificate to the LL. The LL should send you a copy of this and it covers the new boiler for 12 months until the first service is due. So you will be due a service and gas safe check in April anyway.
    Also, your LL is not 'kindly allowing you to stay'. This is your home and if he wants you to leave and issues a S21 notice he's already unable to enforce it because he doesn't have all the required documents ( gas safe) supplied, so if you don't yet have anywhere to go he can't evict you. Just bear this in mind when the day arrives if you don't have anywhere to go
    I asked for a rent reduction as we have to keep the place tidy and go out for viewings 
    No you don't. This is your home, he can't force you to go out while he has strangers wandering around the house.
    Also you are quite right, nobody is going to offer while a tenant is in the house, it could take 6-8 months to get you out
    The LL isn’t selling, he just wants more rent. The agent admitted he’s putting it on for 4 weeks then it is to be let out again. 
    Please explain this. In the first post you say he wants to sell and further on that there are 'viewings'
    We aren’t sure if there have been any viewings taken place as we allowed agent 2 hours per week for viewings that we wouldn’t be there. 
    You let an agent show your home to strangers while you are not in? That's very accommodating of you I certainly wouldn't agree to that
    The agent said we had to allow viewings as our tenancy is coming to an end.
  • FlorayG
    FlorayG Posts: 2,208 Forumite
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    FlorayG said:
    FlorayG said:
    FlorayG said:
    FlorayG said:
    When a new gas boiler is installed the installer registers it with Gas Safe and supplies a Gas Safe Compliance Certificate to the LL. The LL should send you a copy of this and it covers the new boiler for 12 months until the first service is due. So you will be due a service and gas safe check in April anyway.
    Also, your LL is not 'kindly allowing you to stay'. This is your home and if he wants you to leave and issues a S21 notice he's already unable to enforce it because he doesn't have all the required documents ( gas safe) supplied, so if you don't yet have anywhere to go he can't evict you. Just bear this in mind when the day arrives if you don't have anywhere to go
    I asked for a rent reduction as we have to keep the place tidy and go out for viewings 
    No you don't. This is your home, he can't force you to go out while he has strangers wandering around the house.
    Also you are quite right, nobody is going to offer while a tenant is in the house, it could take 6-8 months to get you out
    The LL isn’t selling, he just wants more rent. The agent admitted he’s putting it on for 4 weeks then it is to be let out again. 
    Please explain this. In the first post you say he wants to sell and further on that there are 'viewings'
    We aren’t sure if there have been any viewings taken place as we allowed agent 2 hours per week for viewings that we wouldn’t be there. 
    You let an agent show your home to strangers while you are not in? That's very accommodating of you I certainly wouldn't agree to that
    The agent said we had to allow viewings as our tenancy is coming to an end.
    Only if you are leaving (have given notice) and ABSOLUTELY at times to suit you and you do NOT have to be out of the house!
  • Richardi843
    Richardi843 Posts: 10 Forumite
    First Post
    FlorayG said:
    FlorayG said:
    FlorayG said:
    FlorayG said:
    FlorayG said:
    When a new gas boiler is installed the installer registers it with Gas Safe and supplies a Gas Safe Compliance Certificate to the LL. The LL should send you a copy of this and it covers the new boiler for 12 months until the first service is due. So you will be due a service and gas safe check in April anyway.
    Also, your LL is not 'kindly allowing you to stay'. This is your home and if he wants you to leave and issues a S21 notice he's already unable to enforce it because he doesn't have all the required documents ( gas safe) supplied, so if you don't yet have anywhere to go he can't evict you. Just bear this in mind when the day arrives if you don't have anywhere to go
    I asked for a rent reduction as we have to keep the place tidy and go out for viewings 
    No you don't. This is your home, he can't force you to go out while he has strangers wandering around the house.
    Also you are quite right, nobody is going to offer while a tenant is in the house, it could take 6-8 months to get you out
    The LL isn’t selling, he just wants more rent. The agent admitted he’s putting it on for 4 weeks then it is to be let out again. 
    Please explain this. In the first post you say he wants to sell and further on that there are 'viewings'
    We aren’t sure if there have been any viewings taken place as we allowed agent 2 hours per week for viewings that we wouldn’t be there. 
    You let an agent show your home to strangers while you are not in? That's very accommodating of you I certainly wouldn't agree to that
    The agent said we had to allow viewings as our tenancy is coming to an end.
    Only if you are leaving (have given notice) and ABSOLUTELY at times to suit you and you do NOT have to be out of the house!
    FlorayG said:
    FlorayG said:
    FlorayG said:
    FlorayG said:
    FlorayG said:
    When a new gas boiler is installed the installer registers it with Gas Safe and supplies a Gas Safe Compliance Certificate to the LL. The LL should send you a copy of this and it covers the new boiler for 12 months until the first service is due. So you will be due a service and gas safe check in April anyway.
    Also, your LL is not 'kindly allowing you to stay'. This is your home and if he wants you to leave and issues a S21 notice he's already unable to enforce it because he doesn't have all the required documents ( gas safe) supplied, so if you don't yet have anywhere to go he can't evict you. Just bear this in mind when the day arrives if you don't have anywhere to go
    I asked for a rent reduction as we have to keep the place tidy and go out for viewings 
    No you don't. This is your home, he can't force you to go out while he has strangers wandering around the house.
    Also you are quite right, nobody is going to offer while a tenant is in the house, it could take 6-8 months to get you out
    The LL isn’t selling, he just wants more rent. The agent admitted he’s putting it on for 4 weeks then it is to be let out again. 
    Please explain this. In the first post you say he wants to sell and further on that there are 'viewings'
    We aren’t sure if there have been any viewings taken place as we allowed agent 2 hours per week for viewings that we wouldn’t be there. 
    You let an agent show your home to strangers while you are not in? That's very accommodating of you I certainly wouldn't agree to that
    The agent said we had to allow viewings as our tenancy is coming to an end.
    Only if you are leaving (have given notice) and ABSOLUTELY at times to suit you and you do NOT have to be out of the house!
    They said it’s better if you weren’t there. We haven’t given notice or the LL hasn’t served a S21 yet. So we are within our rights to say no then?
  • FlorayG
    FlorayG Posts: 2,208 Forumite
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    Of course you are. If you owned the house, would you let people view it if you were not selling it? It's the same thing. It's your home, you're not leaving, there's no reason for an agent to bring people round what's the point if the people viewing can't buy or rent it?
    The only scenario where I think this might be reasonable would be if your current LL was offering it for sale with you in situ - but even then, viewings have to be at your convenience,same as if you owned it and YOU were selling it.
    In law it's YOUR HOME and you have all the rights to treat it as such even though you don't own it
  • Richardi843
    Richardi843 Posts: 10 Forumite
    First Post
    FlorayG said:
    Of course you are. If you owned the house, would you let people view it if you were not selling it? It's the same thing. It's your home, you're not leaving, there's no reason for an agent to bring people round what's the point if the people viewing can't buy or rent it?
    The only scenario where I think this might be reasonable would be if your current LL was offering it for sale with you in situ - but even then, viewings have to be at your convenience,same as if you owned it and YOU were selling it.
    In law it's YOUR HOME and you have all the rights to treat it as such even though you don't own it
    I have no idea what they are up to, they want to do a mid term inventory now!
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