Looking For Kingsize Bed/mattress Or Divan

Tim_Deegan

Steve_xx wrote: »

I did not accuse you of trying to sell on here.

Sorry, it's just that many people don't believe that someone who sell can actually be honest and helpful, and they assume that I am on here to sell as some people have been in the past.

Steve_xx wrote: »

The bed type that I made reference to may or may not be of a good quality, or, in your opinion not give good support. But the fact remains that I disagree with you inasmuch as I find it comfortable and I sleep well on it. I don't want a bed that you feel is of superior quality, but one in which I can't sleep soundly.

Sorry I think that there was a misunderstanding here, you said the range was good (I won't memtion the name for legal reasons), but it is actually on a par with a couple of other makes whos quality has droppeed since they became more and more automated. The worst make is actually one of the most famous names in beds (that's the power of advertising). Hence my :rotfl: reply. I didn't say that they aren't comfortable.

Steve_xx wrote: »

Yes I agree with you here. Like all others, the bed industry will be riddled with unscrupulous sales people. So you read up about your subject, you ask some questions and you evaluate your prospective purchase. And perhaps most importantly you lie down on the bed you think you want to have, and you try it out before buying.

It actually goes deeper than just the sales people. I won't mention any names, but there are manufacturers who own what appear to be independent web sites giving advice to buyers. The truth is they are just full of propoganda. There is actually one well known memory foam mattress manufacturer who actually own loads of sites that surprisingly enough say that their mattresses are the dogs b@#*.

As far as trying the mattresses out for 10 mins in the shop goes, they have that covered too: pillow top mattresses feel like you are floating on clouds when they are new in the showroom. This changes after 6 months when all the fillings of the pillow top have been pushed to the side and you are sleeping in a hollow.

Steve_xx

Tim_Deegan wrote: »

Sorry, it's just that many people don't believe that someone who sell can actually be honest and helpful, and they assume that I am on here to sell as some people have been in the past.





Sorry I think that there was a misunderstanding here, you said the range was good (I won't memtion the name for legal reasons), but it is actually on a par with a couple of other makes whos quality has droppeed since they became more and more automated. The worst make is actually one of the most famous names in beds (that's the power of advertising). Hence my :rotfl: reply. I didn't say that they aren't comfortable.





It actually goes deeper than just the sales people. I won't mention any names, but there are manufacturers who own what appear to be independent web sites giving advice to buyers. The truth is they are just full of propoganda. There is actually one well known memory foam mattress manufacturer who actually own loads of sites that surprisingly enough say that their mattresses are the dogs b@#*.

As far as trying the mattresses out for 10 mins in the shop goes, they have that covered too: pillow top mattresses feel like you are floating on clouds when they are new in the showroom. This changes after 6 months when all the fillings of the pillow top have been pushed to the side and you are sleeping in a hollow.

Points taken.

I'm not a huge fan of memory foam products. Though they are very comfortable. They are derivatives of a petro-chemical process, aren't they, and I wonder that they may possibly give off carginogenic fumes. There was talk a while back about polystyrene giving off carcinogenic fumes and I wonder if this could be a possibility with memory foam. The manufacturers will of course deny any potential hazard.

dihaz

Hi, I need a new bed!
I like the look of those leather type ones but are the wooden slat bases any good or am i better off with a divan as it has a solid base?
Also which matress is good for a bad back?
Any help much appreciated!
kind regards
Dihaz

Tim_Deegan

Steve_xx wrote: »

Points taken.

I'm not a huge fan of memory foam products. Though they are very comfortable. They are derivatives of a petro-chemical process, aren't they, and I wonder that they may possibly give off carginogenic fumes. There was talk a while back about polystyrene giving off carcinogenic fumes and I wonder if this could be a possibility with memory foam. The manufacturers will of course deny any potential hazard.

I'm not sure of the exact manufacturing process, but many synthetic products are derived from petrochemicals. If you want to play it safe then you would need a mattress made from natural products like wool,cotton,latex,cashmere, etc... but these are very expensive

Tim_Deegan

dihaz wrote: »

Hi, I need a new bed!
I like the look of those leather type ones but are the wooden slat bases any good or am i better off with a divan as it has a solid base?
Also which matress is good for a bad back?
Any help much appreciated!
kind regards
Dihaz

You can go for a slatted bed for any type of mattress with just a small modification.
Although open coil sprung mattresses are the most suitable for slatted bases, you can use a pocket sprung or memory foam mattress just by making a slight modification to your base. I personally have a Calypso mattress (1000 pocket sprung with memory foam) on my pine slatted bed. The reason that pocket sprung mattresses aren't usually suitable for slatted bases is because each spring works independently, so if the gaps between the slats are too big then the springs will try to push between them. What I have done to prevent this is to add extra slats to close the gap to about 1 inch. If you can't add extra slats, then you can lay a sheet of peg board (hard board with loads of holes in it) over the slats.

According to an osteopath who I asked the question to, the best type of mattress for back support is pocket sprung with memory foam. She also said that if they were out of your price range then you should go for pocket sprung only.

dihaz

Thanks for that, I will go armed with that info bed hunting tomorrow!:beer:

saintscouple

Tim,
Please don't take offense, but the advice you are stating seems to be copied from somewhere else and pasted on here as the text font changes.
If this is from another website perhaps you could direct us to it so we can look at all the facts.
Thanks very much.

kettricken

Hi all
Like you we wanted a new bed this year. After a quick visit to Dreams we were so confused about all the different types. So I sat here and read a lot of posts about buying beds. I copied and pasted info and printed it out to refer to whilst looking. We knew we wanted a king size but after some valuable advice from Tim we decided pocket springs on a sprung base with or without memory foam was for us, as my husband has a bad back.
I must say I was attracted to the prices on Ebay, but I wanted to be sure and feel the bed. We eventually brought a Sleepeze Baroness in "Glasswells World of Furniture" sale (a local furniture retailer) marked up at £1400 for which we paid £629.99. I have no idea if this is a bargain or not but we were happy to find the apparent quality in a bed that gives us what we want locally, at a price we liked.
Tim's advice was invaluable I do not spend this much money lightly as every penny is very hard to come by. I wanted my bed to stand the test of time and serve me well. You can all slag Tim off but I would like to applaud the time he takes to help us all avoid all the unnecessary jargon out there. In fact going back to some retailers armed with my info floored them a little bit.
I wish more people would freely give as much time to make us aware of the sales gimmicks like Tim does.
This is not an advert as you can see we did not buy from Tim. I just get so fed up of people being quick to fire off emails to put people down.
So after spending my first goods night sleep in a long while I would like to thank Tim very much for leading us through the minefield.

Now who can advise me on how to stop my husband grinding his teeth in his sleep!!

best wishes

Steve_xx

saintscouple wrote: »

Tim,
Please don't take offense, but the advice you are stating seems to be copied from somewhere else and pasted on here as the text font changes.
If this is from another website perhaps you could direct us to it so we can look at all the facts.
Thanks very much.

Yes, he does copy and paste the information. But it's copied from elesewhere on this site from where he has given similar advice on other occasions. There's no problem about that. It simply saves him time in not having to retype it each time similar questions are posed.

Steve_xx

kettricken wrote: »

Hi all
Like you we wanted a new bed this year. After a quick visit to Dreams we were so confused about all the different types. So I sat here and read a lot of posts about buying beds. I copied and pasted info and printed it out to refer to whilst looking. We knew we wanted a king size but after some valuable advice from Tim we decided pocket springs on a sprung base with or without memory foam was for us, as my husband has a bad back.
I must say I was attracted to the prices on Ebay, but I wanted to be sure and feel the bed. We eventually brought a Sleepeze Baroness in "Glasswells World of Furniture" sale (a local furniture retailer) marked up at £1400 for which we paid £629.99. I have no idea if this is a bargain or not but we were happy to find the apparent quality in a bed that gives us what we want locally, at a price we liked.
Tim's advice was invaluable I do not spend this much money lightly as every penny is very hard to come by. I wanted my bed to stand the test of time and serve me well. You can all slag Tim off but I would like to applaud the time he takes to help us all avoid all the unnecessary jargon out there. In fact going back to some retailers armed with my info floored them a little bit.
I wish more people would freely give as much time to make us aware of the sales gimmicks like Tim does.
This is not an advert as you can see we did not buy from Tim. I just get so fed up of people being quick to fire off emails to put people down.
So after spending my first goods night sleep in a long while I would like to thank Tim very much for leading us through the minefield.

Now who can advise me on how to stop my husband grinding his teeth in his sleep!!

best wishes

I'm pleased that you took Tims advice and that you have a product which suits your needs. I agree with you that Tims advice is useful. He offers his advice freely on here, and I for one would say that his advice is generally sound. That does not mean that we all have to hang on to his every word and that we cannot be allowed to voice an individual opinion based on our own experiences.

I note that you mention that people are slagging Tim off. On this thread that certainly is not the case. What we're having here is a useful debate and each of us have our own views regarding what is good quality, comfort etc in a bed product. There's no harm is good verbal interaction, after all, this is what good discussion is all about.