ECP- Euro Car Parks and DCB Legal 2nd December 2024

discountgood

Hi everyone, I have previously followed your good advice and followed closely until now I received letter by DCB Legal this month, which was actually received several weeks after date of letter due to Royal mail. 

discountgood

I previously appealed the ticket from ECP on the basis of no parking sign at entrance to car park, no visible signage especially due to lighting being switched off in the car park making it totally left in darkness.

discountgood

Also I had received a notification from ECP originally stating that I needed to pay them £100, which was also part of my appeal that I never received any previous communication from them i.e. Notice to Keeper to settle early i.e. £60

discountgood

On 27th February, I made appeal on the ECP PCN that was sent as final notification on 23rd February, alleging the parking in January 2023

Gr1pr

Respond to dcb legal by email with the response template in the second post in the newbies sticky thread in announcements 

discountgood

I have previously ignored all these 'debt' letters from 'Debt Recovery Plus', until I moved address late 2023, early 2024 I started to receive DCBL letters at my new address, is it safe to say they have done a data breach by searching my address again via DVLA?

discountgood

Of course I intend to contest this PCN, partly from my previous responses to ECP and POPLA.

Gr1pr

discountgood said:

I have previously ignored all these 'debt' letters from 'Debt Recovery Plus', until I moved address late 2023, early 2024 I started to receive DCBL letters at my new address, is it safe to say they have done a data breach by searching my address again via DVLA?

No because that is not allowed so wasnt done,  you have made an incorrect assumption. I have no idea why you even thought it had been done that way   !

You should email a data rectification notice to the DPO at ECP and cc dcb legal,  confirming the correct address for the service of papers,  to avoid any court claim being issued to the old address 

Le_Kirk

discountgood said:

I have previously ignored all these 'debt' letters from 'Debt Recovery Plus', until I moved address late 2023, early 2024 I started to receive DCBL letters at my new address, is it safe to say they have done a data breach by searching my address again via DVLA?

They (the PPC) are only allowed to request the keeper details from DVLA once per parking event; more likely they have bought a soft trace costing 29P. Always worthwhile updating the DVLA (licence and V5C) every time you move and the DPO of the PPC making sure they have the correct address for service so you are not in danger of having a N1 court claim sent to somewhere you don't live

discountgood

I intend to contest on the following points.

1. Inadequate lighting and signage at 'client ECP' car park.



2. ECP- not following BPA code of practice i.e. Notice to Keeper not received, no proof provided on previous requests through appeals process 

3. ECP- directly demanding £100 with no choice to settle early at the discounted rate.

4. DCBl inflating PCN to £170.

5. Data protection laws breach by ECP, by passing my personal details to 3rd party companies.

Now I know I have left this late because of busy Christmas period in my job and RM delays and I had no intention to respond to these 'debt companies' however, reading through previous threads I feel everyone else has responded in one way or another.

Gr1pr

discountgood said:

I intend to contest on the following points.

1. Inadequate lighting and signage at 'client ECP' car park.



2. ECP- not following BPA code of practice i.e. Notice to Keeper not received, no proof provided on previous requests through appeals process 

3. ECP- directly demanding £100 with no choice to settle early at the discounted rate.

4. DCBl inflating PCN to £170.

5. Data protection laws breach by ECP, by passing my personal details to 3rd party companies.

Now I know I have left this late because of busy Christmas period in my job and RM delays and I had no intention to respond to these 'debt companies' however, reading through previous threads I feel everyone else has responded in one way or another.

1) a typical and fair point at any private car park , signage etc is in the template defence 

2) they dont have to prove receipt,  just the issue date and that they posted the NTK PCN letter 

You have no proof that the BPA CoP was breached 

3) you don't yet know this, because you haven't seen the missing NTK PCN letter 

4)  that is objected to in the defence template and regularly binned by the courts

5) incorrect,  this is allowed,  nothing to see there,  no legs at all

You will probably be using the recent POC rebuttal as your paragraph 3, with just a date change